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pberrett
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Location: Melbourne, West Island
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:39 pm
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| CMRPS wrote: | Home of the Cadbury chocolate factory. Yumm  |
I've never been to Tasmania (yet)
Is the Chocolate Factory worth a visit? (dumb question)
cheers Peter
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RTT_Rules
Chief Commissioner
Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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Location: Gladstone Qld
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:57 am
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| pberrett wrote: | | CMRPS wrote: | | Home of the Cadbury chocolate factory. Yumm |
I've never been to Tasmania (yet)
Is the Chocolate Factory worth a visit? (dumb question)
cheers Peter |
Yes worth a visit, but I last went in mid 90's. As for the expansion that saw the railway closed. It appeared to me to be an expansion of the BBQ area for employees, either way its their land.
While the railway runs through a long leg of Hobart Suburbia, its kind of on the side, making it less convient for alot of people who live out that way. You could look at restarting a limited peak hour only service as an extension of the bus system and this would likely be cost effective with trains starting at New Norfolk and running to Hobart in the AM and returning in the PM. This may help eas the minimal peak hour crush on Hobart's streets at tad. Vancouver has a similar system, ie peak hour only on one heavy rail line when its closed to freights.
I think the best approach would be a Melbourne style light railway using the current alignment and better alignment were possible and economic and it would have to run all the way to Bridgewater. You could look at DG the current line if the light rail was the usual SG. The trams would run from the existing station yard at Hobart port and then undergroun to under Hobart CBD as a terminus, a bit like Brisbane's buses. Light rail could also be extended South to at least Sandy Bay and the Casino. Other areas? Tassie is the state with the highest green (hydro) power percentage its a pity of it cannot be used to move people around.
Biggest restriction is that a large chunk of Hobart is now on the eastern shore and these people will be cars, buses or ferries.
Shane
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:12 pm
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| railway wrote: | | Do you think that suburban passenger trains in Hobart would work today if they were reinstated in the form of a modern electrified network? |
It is unlikely that a suburban rail service would ever work in Hobart again because there is a high expectation amont the travelling public that they are entitled to public transport that will take them almost right to their front door.
I spent over 5 years driving government buses in Hobart and I was amazed at just how many variations there were to 'standard' bus routes just to accommodate a few people who lobbied their local members.
Your average Hobart resident feels that a walk of 100 metres to a bus stop is just too far.
Here are two true stories that happened to me.
One afternoon I approached a bus stop on the eastern shore where the council had been digging up the footpath around the stop. The ground was a muddy mess so I thought I would do the right thing and stop 10 metres short of the stop so that the passengers could alight on a hard concrete driveway.
One old lady complained bitterly that I had not pulled up to the stop and when I pointed out what a mess the path was around the stop she claimed that it was no excuse because she lived 4 metres the other side of the stop and she didn't appreciate any bus driving who made her walk that extra distance.
Story 2 happened at Claremont one afternoon when I was driving a bus with a faulty rear door. The bell rang, I pulled up at the stop and a woman tried to leave by the rear door.
I politely explained that the door was faulty and she would have to leave by the front door. As she left the bus she gave me the filthiest look.
The next day I was on the same trip and the same woman rang the bell for the same stop. I learned then why she gave me such a smeg look the day before.
When I pulled up at the stop she was able to leave by the rear door - cross the footpath and walk straight in her front gate.
Stories like that are not uncommon down there and just go to show why people won't use a surburban rail service.
Besides, with that mind set the closest they could get on a train to the CBD (about 10 minutes walk) would be way to far away.
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Australind
Minister for Railways
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:09 pm
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Isnt there frieght trains still operating in Tasmania?
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Skindog the Hawk
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:07 am
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| Australind wrote: | | Isnt there frieght trains still operating in Tasmania? |
AFAIK at about 40km/h.... 
SD.
Can we Darwinise or euthanase ChromeDome??
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Australind
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:02 pm
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Who operates Tasmania?
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tasrail
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:35 am
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| Australind wrote: | | Who operates Tasmania? |
That question is open to a few good answers if taken literally, but I'll stay away from that.
Tasrail is now owned by Pacific National, and will one day become Pacific National Tasmania. Admin is still done in Launceston, but I suspect it will move north at some stage (some functions have already).
Stuart
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:56 pm
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Hey Stuart Burnie isn't that bad really.Just remember we are very busy with trains 
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tasrail2100
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:23 pm
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sorry Z i didn't follow what u said there???
i think stuart meant to the north island, not burnie?
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:37 am
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I think i should of quoted him what i was going on about. 
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