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Sammy D
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:46 pm
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Can anyone list or have any info on the Privatly owned/ran Industrial Railways in Australia particaually in New South Wales and Victoria.
This can include cane railways in Queensland.
Sammy D The Vice-President of the Diamond Valley Railway.
All comments are my own and do not reflect the views of the above mentioned railway unless otherwise stated.
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EMBaldwin
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:24 pm
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G'day,
A good list of cane railways in Queensland (as well as a fair bit of info pertaining to these railways) can be found at the Light Railway Research Society Sugar Railway Page - http://www.lrrsa.org.au/LRR_SGR.htm
If you have any other questions on these, just ask 
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Sammy D
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:28 pm
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Thanks Steve, I have been to that site before, Can You suggest any good books that would be worth having?
Sammy D The Vice-President of the Diamond Valley Railway.
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EMBaldwin
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| Sammy D wrote: | | Thanks Steve, I have been to that site before, Can You suggest any good books that would be worth having? |
No worries, but if you have any specific questions, I might be able to help you out (depends on the mill)..
As for books, I don't have any myself (spent too much time as a youngster with the real thing to be bothered with books, but that is about to change), but 3 good books that I have heard about (and glanced at on a few occasions) are:
One For The Road
Wheels In Motion (1998)
both of these books are by Andy Roberts..
Another book would be "Built By Baldwin", which came out last year.. can't remember the author's name atm, but the detail is quite good, and this book also covers the mining locos etc that E.M. Baldwin built. This book should be available through the ARHS.
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Sammy D
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:52 pm
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A mate of mine has "built by baldwin" and says it is really good.
Also do many Cane Locos come up for sale and if so for how much?
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:14 pm
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| Sammy D wrote: |
Also do many Cane Locos come up for sale and if so for how much? |
Locos for sale don't seem to come up too often, although Mackay Sugar/Transfield (who manage Mackay Sugar's railways etc) had an auction a few months ago to sell off surplus rollingstock (and other stuff), although most of the locos involved here were rather old/small and part dismantled locos. I think a few went for up to $7000.
As for other locos for sale, that all depends on how well the sugar industry is. If a bit (heap) more money makes its way into the industry, some mills might be able to buy some bigger/new locos (well, at least rebuild some more Walkers DH locos), thereby allowing some of the older stuff to be withdrawn/sold - the fist clyde to be built for cane railways use (Macknade Mill loco 16) turns 50 this year IIRC.
On the other hand, the sugar industry may continue to suffer financial difficulties, and hence, a few more mills might close (following the lead of Moreton Mill at Nambour - and the rumoured closure of Mossman Mill), hence making a few locos surplus to requirments (assuming the locos from the closed mills aren't snapped up by other mills).
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Sammy D
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:49 pm
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Thanks for that.
Sammy D The Vice-President of the Diamond Valley Railway.
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DavidB
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:09 pm
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| Sammy D wrote: | | Can anyone list or have any info on the Privatly owned/ran Industrial Railways in Australia particaually in New South Wales and Victoria. |
I'll include industrial railways owned by government agencies other than the state railways. This is nowhere near an exhaustive list.
Victoria
- Portland Harbour Trust Railway (bg)
- Australian Paper Manufacturers, Maryvale (bg)
- Kerang & Koondrook Tramway (bg, taken over by VR)
- Brunswick Plaster Mills, Nowingi (bg)
- Australian Portland Cement, Fyansford (3'6" gauge)
- Hayden's Tramway, Barwon (3'6" gauge)
- Sandersons Tramway, Barramunga (3'6" gauge)
- Dellatite Sawmilling Tramway, Mirimbah (3'6" gauge)
- Kinglake Tramway (3' gauge)
- Russells Tramway, Gembrook (3' gauge)
- D'Arti's Tramway, Cobden (3' gauge)
- Enterprise Sawmills Tramway (3' gauge)
- New Federal Tramway, Warburton (3' gauge)
- SEC, Kiewa (3' gauge)
- SEC, Yallourn (900mm)
- Pink Lakes Tramway (2'6" gauge)
- Tyers Valley Tramway (2'6" gauge)
- West Melbourne Gas Works (2'6" gauge)
- Cheetham Salt, Laverton & South Geelong (2' gauge)
- Rubicon Lumber & Tramway Co. (2' gauge)
- Yangardook Tramway, Toolern Vale (2' gauge)
- Commonwealth Munitions Supply Board, Maribyrnong (15" gauge?)
- Hume weir construction tramway (what gauge?)
- Ada Mills Timber Tramway, Starlings Gap (what gauge?)
NSW
- Deniliquin & Moama Railway (broad gauge, taken over by VR)
- Commonwealth Munitions Supply Board, St Marys
- Commonwealth Oil Corporation (Newnes, Wolgan Valley)
- J & A Brown coal lines (e.g. Richmond Vale Railway)
- South Maitland Railway
- New Redhead Estate and Colliery (Belmont line)
- A heap of other coal lines
- Ringwood Colliery Railway
- South Bulli Colliery
- Box Vale Colliery
- Commonwealth Steel, Newcastle
- Australian Iron & Steel, Pt Kembla
- Lysaght's, Port Kembla
- Tubemakers of Australia, Newcastle
- Blue Circle Cement, various locations
- Metropolitan Water Sewerage and Drainage Board, (Potts Hill, Ryde)
- Emu Gravel Co
- Nepean Sand and Gravel
- Prospect Quarry
- Widemere Quarry
- Silverton Tramway Company (3'6" gauge)
- Tarrawingee Flux and Tramway Company (3'6" gauge)
- Burrinjuck Tramway (2' gauge)
- Corrimal Colliery (2' gauge)
- State Metal Quarries, Kiama (2' gauge)
Cheers
David
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:14 pm
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Thank You very much.
Sammy D The Vice-President of the Diamond Valley Railway.
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