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vicsig
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:29 pm
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Do you think moderators should be allowed to remain unknown to the users of Railpage Australia™ Forums? (this includes marking their online status as "hidden")
Or have a signature which has their name and forum(s) they moderate.
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Jo Blogs
Chrismas Island Trains
Bass Straight Ferries
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350M-1196T-691M
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:33 pm
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No, everyone should know who the mods AND admins are.
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vicsig
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:36 pm
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A good example is QRIG. He has his name and forums he moderates in his signature.
I also have an issue with Admin's not replying to my PMs when it concerns a legal matter. However this is being taken up in PM until such time I get sick of waiting for a reply when I know they have read my PMs.
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350M-1196T-691M
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:38 pm
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| vicsig wrote: | | A good example is QRIG. He has his name and forums he moderates in his signature. |
I think it shoud be like that for ALL mods.
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Webslave
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:10 pm
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| 350M-1196T-691M wrote: | | vicsig wrote: | | A good example is QRIG. He has his name and forums he moderates in his signature. |
I think it shoud be like that for ALL mods. | Why? Moderators of each forum are listed in the forum list, and the top of the topic list aren't they?
James Morgan
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"Remember, you can't say filthy, without Phil!"
MorgaNet Online - http://yen.omni.com.au/
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vicsig
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:12 pm
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| Webslave wrote: | | 350M-1196T-691M wrote: | | vicsig wrote: | | A good example is QRIG. He has his name and forums he moderates in his signature. |
I think it shoud be like that for ALL mods. | Why? Moderators of each forum are listed in the forum list, and the top of the topic list aren't they? |
Yes and your signature says "James Morgan", but who are the other moderators?
Why can't that be a condition of being a moderator. Its bad enough there is so many anon users on here, but not the moderators as well.
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Webslave
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:22 pm
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| vicsig wrote: | | Webslave wrote: | | 350M-1196T-691M wrote: | | vicsig wrote: | | A good example is QRIG. He has his name and forums he moderates in his signature. |
I think it shoud be like that for ALL mods. | Why? Moderators of each forum are listed in the forum list, and the top of the topic list aren't they? |
Yes and your signature says "James Morgan", but who are the other moderators?
Why can't that be a condition of being a moderator. Its bad enough there is so many anon users on here, but not the moderators as well. | Yep, that's definately a fair point, and I agree with you that it's preferable - though I'm not sure that it should be enforced as such - simply because it's personal information of sorts. Some people feel a little funny about giving their name online.
I'd prefer to see it done, so I agree with you - though despite this I'm not really sure how it would have affected how I use the forums; does anyone have any examples of how this could help?
James Morgan
Lead Developer - Railpage Australia™ 2.0
"Remember, you can't say filthy, without Phil!"
MorgaNet Online - http://yen.omni.com.au/
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vicsig
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:23 pm
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Leading by example.
Creates more trust/respect in moderators.
and lots of other things.
I certinally have more respect for the moderators that have names and don't hide behind a keyboard.
Also gives that personal touch.
I used to have my name in my signature, but these days have no need.
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chrisr001
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:33 pm
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if mod's don't want to give out their full name, then they should at least put their first name.
e.g Mod - Joe Smith could be Mod - Joe
BUT, they have to be their REAL first names
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John of Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:42 pm
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I'm not a moderator, although I was once asked if I would be interested in becoming one.
I use a pseudonym because I wish to remain anonymous. I work in the railway industry and wish to be free to post messages here without any connection to my job. This is not just so that the other Railpage Australia™ Forums members don't know who I am, but also so that my employer and colleagues don't know who I am on here. Although I am careful to not post information that I know to be priveleged, it does give me some freedom that I would not feel that I had if my identity was known.
Whilst people can abuse the use of a pseudonym, people can abuse almost anything, so that should not in itself be a reason to insist that people use their real names.
Admittedly the suggestion was that only moderators have to use their real names, but I don't see why I should be prevented from becoming a moderator simply because I wish to remain anonymous.
What advantage does the use of a real name have? As far as I can see the only advantage is to allow people to be identified outside Railpage Australia™ Forums, and I don't see any necessity for that except in the unlikely(?) case of someone wanting to take legal action against a moderator. But to cover that possibility it could be made a requirement that the Railpage Australia™ Forums administrators know the identity of the moderators.
There may be a problem with people posting under several aliases, especially if they abuse that to, for example, support their other selves in an argument or such, but again I don't see that the possibility of some abuse should prevent others from doing so. I have thought of also posting some messages here under my real identity, although so far have not had the need to. But if I wished to, then why not? Again, I suppose that it could be a requirement that anybody wishing to do so has to be known to the administrators.
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Riccardo
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:47 pm
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Hear, hear. I have the same reasoning as JoM and hence the same response. I feel no need to tell people who I am unless it relates to something off-board, and for 99.5% of you lot that is not going to happen.
Given what I've seen under "Railpage Australia™ Privacy" these personal recriminations happen or are made worse by the fact that the participants know each other.
This may preceed Railpage Australia™ Forums creation, but if it didn't, then gives me good reason to not disclose my identity. I too, could walk in front of your shot, drive my car too fast or slow for your liking, or tell you to your face that an X class is a heap of smeg and annoy you thereby. But if I do, I'd rather not read about it again in these forums.
If you need to get in touch, drop a comment at the Transport Textbook or on my blog.
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VRfan
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:51 am
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I don't think it should be necessary for a moderator to give out their real name. However, I think there should be a list on here of who moderates what forums. eg: I only concentrate on the MSTS forums and I don't get involved in moderating the other forums under "Railpage Australia™ Moderators" unless there is something pretty serious in there.
I think what we should have is a locked, sticky thread in the "Railpage Australia™" forum which lists who moderates what. This way, if someone has a problem, they know who to contact, etc...
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dthead
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:00 am
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| VRfan wrote: | I don't think it should be necessary for a moderator to give out their real name. However, I think there should be a list on here of who moderates what forums. eg: I only concentrate on the MSTS forums and I don't get involved in moderating the other forums under "Railpage Australia™ Moderators" unless there is something pretty serious in there.
I think what we should have is a locked, sticky thread in the "Railpage Australia™" forum which lists who moderates what. This way, if someone has a problem, they know who to contact, etc... |
I'd ask people to go to the main forum page.
1. Down the bottom it does list the users currently logged in, and it shows moderators & admin as different colours.
>> This allows you to see that there are moderators logged in.
2. Each forum shows who the moderators are. May not be their real name, but one Railpage Australia™ has accepted. In the case of Railpage Australia™ Moderators you can click on the name to see WHO is in that list.
3. Real names/Phony names, I can only voice my choice which is a real name and my name as my user. Same as Aus.Rail etc. I think "vigsig" if you has started this thread in the same manner as you have suggested It would have made more impact (ie used your name).
I do believe you have put a good point though Vigsig. As to hidden accounts it is not only moderators who can do that. Uses like yourself use it as well, for YOUR personnel reasons which is your right.
Would the below be acceptable
Regards,
David Head
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Railpage Australia™ Moderator of Austrlaina Miniature Railways
& general "Railpage Australia™ Moderator" member.
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nazarail
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:07 am
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| Quote: | | I think it shoud be like that for ALL mods. |
i second that!
we need to know who to talk to when theres a problem!
this aint the goverment!
hahahaha
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vicsig
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:08 am
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| dthead wrote: | I'd ask people to go to the main forum page.
1. Down the bottom it does list the users currently logged in, and it shows moderators & admin as different colours.
>> This allows you to see that there are moderators logged in. |
I shall take for example, Webslave. He is a "Site Admin" but keeps his online status hidden. So it doesn't always work that way, and I would consider it even more important for site admin to show then moderators.
| dthead wrote: | 2. Each forum shows who the moderators are. May not be their real name, but one Railpage Australia™ has accepted. In the case of Railpage Australia™ Moderators you can click on the name to see WHO is in that list.
3. Real names/Phony names, I can only voice my choice which is a real name and my name as my user. Same as Aus.Rail etc. I think "vigsig" if you has started this thread in the same manner as you have suggested It would have made more impact (ie used your name). |
Vicsig
When I was moderator I had my name in my signature, I have my name in my signature on my vicsig forums. My full name can be found on my webpage, which is linked to my profile.
| dthead wrote: | I do believe you have put a good point though Vigsig. As to hidden accounts it is not only moderators who can do that. Uses like yourself use it as well, for YOUR personnel reasons which is your right.
Would the below be acceptable
Regards,
David Head
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Railpage Australia™ Moderator of Austrlaina Miniature Railways
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Yes, I have nothing wrong with hidden accounts or anon users, except if they wish to be part of the moderation team.
Your sig looks good, and fits into line with Webslave, VRFan, QRIG. Already many mods do it, and it wouldn't be hard to make it a requirement to me a moderator. After all, they don't have to be a moderator to use Railpage Australia™ Forums.
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