Sydney Train Depots

  vince_tang Beginner

Where are the depots in Sydney and what lines do they usually service?

Where do they house the v-sets overnight?

And when did the depot in Punchbowl close and why? Thanks.

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  Dave_P Junior Train Controller

Location: Eastwood, NSW
Where are the depots in Sydney and what lines do they usually service?
"vince_tang"


Ok, You have Hornsby, which services what is known as sector 3, which goes includes Western line as far as Emu Plains and Richmond, Hornsby via Strathfield and the North Shore to Berowra. It also maintains the 2 car K sets that are used on the Newcastle line.

Flemington services sector 2, which is Campbelltown, Bankstown, Liverpool, East Hills, City Circle, Airport and Blacktown to Campbelltown (Y link). It also services sector 3 as above but with the inclusion of Olympic Park and Carlingford.

Flemington is also the maintenance centre for the V's which is known as sector 4 and includes Lithgow/Blue Mountains, Central Coast/Newcastle and Dapto/South Coast.

Mortdale services Sector 1 which is basically Bondi to Cronulla/Waterfall and Sector 2 services as above. Once again the 2 car suburban L sets and the G sets that operate on the South Coast are maintained here also.

Then you have the Endeavour/Xplorer maintenance centre at Eveleigh and the XPT maintenance facility at Meeks Rd in Tempe.

It must be noted however that many trains are stabled overnight at many yards and sidings in the metro area which include Sydney Terminal, Eveleigh, Cronulla, Waterfall, North Sydney, Hornsby Yard, Blacktown, Richmond, Penrith, Liverpool, and Campbelltown.



Where do they house the v-sets overnight?
"vince_tang"


As stated above at Flemington, though there is the same deal as the suburbans, whereby sets are stabled at outlying locations overnight. These include Sydney Terminal, Mt Victoria, Lithgow (V sets), Gosford (V sets, G sets and K sets), Broadmeadow (V sets, Endeavours and the dmu's), Newcastle (V sets, Endeavours and the dmu's), Port Kembla (V sets), Wollongong (G sets, L sets and endeavours), Nowra (Endeavours) and Moss Vale (Endeavours).

And when did the depot in Punchbowl close and why? Thanks.
"vince_tang"


Sorry Vince, It is too early in the morning (or late at night) for me to think back that far, however someone else may be able to answer this for you.

Dave
  nazarail Chief Commissioner

Location: Between BN 80 UL and BN 87 UL
and also i thing Eveleigh a.k.a the bug house (where the mbugs are based) is going to be know as sector 5, just something iv heard

If everything is to be "sectorised" wouldn't that mean there'd need to be a maintainence centre at campbelltown? example east hills line, half the trains are from flemington the other half are from mortdale, just seems to me to be an embarassing smeg up waiting to happen, if for some reason either yard has a problem getting trains out, at least if there was one depot, that way the powers that be could cancel all services and run buses (i think in cases where there are big problems it's better for the situation if there is certainty for the public, i.e there will be NO trains rather than, yeah there's a limited service, when? who knows, when a train shows up?)


Another thing, the XPT depot should be moved to Eveleigh, why? well for an empty train heading into central, it first has to go up a down track straight out the siding (on the bankstown line) then it crosses onto the up track, joins the east hills at sydneham station, then crosses onto the illawarra for the rest of the trip into central, I mean if something were to go wrong with either of the 3 lines, that means the train is late before even taking on a single passenger! Given that the cityrail trains would be given priority most of the time. Also with the XPL's going out to meeks rd is a joke as well!
Couldn't they use the unused part of Eveleigh, next to HETS?
Just a thought......
  dullsteamer Deputy Commissioner

Location: Waterfall, NSW
As stated above at Flemington, though there is the same deal as the suburbans, whereby sets are stabled at outlying locations overnight. These include Sydney Terminal, Mt Victoria, Lithgow (V sets), Gosford (V sets, G sets and K sets), Broadmeadow (V sets, Endeavours and the dmu's),
"Dave_P"


Broadmeadow Endeavour Service Centre is not a stabling point, but a sub-depot of XESC Eveleigh. The stabling roads for the IUs are separate.
  ben9909 Chief Train Controller

Location: Main West N.S.W
Depot's:

Flemington >> (Houses V-Sets)
Punchbowl (No longer a depot?)
Cronulla
North Sydney
Waterfall
Hornsby
Blacktown
Penrith
Mortdale
Central (Syd. Terminal)
Campbelltown
Richmond
  Skindog the Hawk Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wollongong
And when did the depot in Punchbowl close and why? Thanks.
"vince_tang"


Punchbowl closed in the very early 1990's (I think about 1991/1992). Basically the state government decided that it would be better as a housing estate (which is now nearing completion).... Confused

Skindog.
  WindyK Junior Train Controller

Location: St Leonards, NSW
Yes, it closed not long after they installed boardwalks around the tracks...very far sighted of the SRA.  Odd also that the targets were "B" because it was geographically closer to Bankstown than Punchbowl.  The whole area is now subdivided with housing starting to spring up in the wasteland...
  ant Chief Train Controller

Location: SW33+123
And when did the depot in Punchbowl close and why? Thanks.
"vince_tang"


1993 seems to spring to my mind - at around the same time as the remaining M & W (Single Deck Motor/Double-Deck Trailers M-Manual Doors, W-Powered Doors) were finishing up with Sector 2.

Also, just like to point out that Sector 2 has no Tangara's of its own - Sector 2 lines using Tangaras are primarily sourced from Mortdale, and to a lesser extent Hornsby- look at the target plate colours (Red-Sec 1, Blue-Sec 2, Black-Sec 3) and you wont find any blue plated T sets.

On a side topic  - when the new M sets finally get allocated to the sectors, will they change from Green to the local sector colour?
  dullsteamer Deputy Commissioner

Location: Waterfall, NSW
Yes, it closed not long after they installed boardwalks around the tracks...very far sighted of the SRA.
"WindyK"


It has long been a part of railway folklore that you can always tell when the closure of a facility is imminent - it will be renovated first!
  phpunit6

Punchbowl closed on the 8th Feb 1995 (infrastructure booked out, don't have a date when it was no longer a working train depot)
  rherkes Chief Commissioner

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1993 seems to spring to my mind - at around the same time as the remaining M & W (Single Deck Motor/Double-Deck Trailers M-Manual Doors, W-Powered Doors) were finishing up with Sector 2.


I thought the old M sets were from Sector 3? The new ones are spread around sectors 1 and two.

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Also, just like to point out that Sector 2 has no Tangara's of its own
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No tangaras and the old W and M sets - sounds like a good dream to me!
  ant Chief Train Controller

Location: SW33+123
[quote="rherkes"][quote]
I thought the old M sets were from Sector 3? The new ones are spread around sectors 1 and two.
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No, they finished running Bankstown, InnerWest, Liv V Rgnts Pk/Granville trips. If they were on a Sector 3 run, it was a rare event between Jan 12 1992 and the time they were withdrawn.

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No tangaras and the old W and M sets - sounds like a good dream to me![/quote]
You're not wrong there - just throw in some H sets also, and a few Mk1 Comeng DD motors still in Indian Red!
  MrChris Station Master

Hey just wandering what is that go on the train yard in enfield known as the "DELEC" just wandering if anyone knew when trains are sheduled in there cos i want to snap a few flics!

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