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aus.rail
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 6:55 pm
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Taxpayers will have to pay millions of dollars to modify the brakes on
M>Train's fleet of new Siemens trains, the State Government confirmed
yesterday. Drivers have complained that they have insufficient control
over the force of the brakes and that the new trains, which feature
electric brakes, restrict the way they can be removed from the scene of
a breakdown. The electric brakes, which lock up in a breakdown, are not
compatible with the air brakes of older trains, meaning the older trains
cannot be used to push the newer models out of the way. Rail, Tram and
Bus Union state president Marc Marotta blamed the former National
Express management for ordering "the cheapest train they could get".
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/13/1052591795355.html
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BJ Titsengolf
That's Numberwang!
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 12:51 am
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That's what you get when you buy a train designed to run underground. cheap, cheap.
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VRfan
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 2:03 am
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Should have just refurbished the Hitachi's. Probably would have been better than the new junk Melbourne is getting. Ah well, hopefully it will fall apart after 10 years and they can get something better. 
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mjja
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 1:27 pm
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Better than the government getting a new design done, reinventing the wheel all along the way, and spending $10m just to see which companies are willing to do the work. This way at least we know they will run.
Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"
Michael Angelico
President, Smart Passengers Inc
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ptc
Chief Train Controller
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 11:42 am
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| d3 624 wrote: | | That's what you get when you buy a train designed to run underground. cheap, cheap. |
TRUE!
The siemens train are from the Mo.Mo range of trains from Siemens, M> didn't like the name Mo.Mo so they called it nexas but then changed the name yet again to siemens.
If you go on the mo.mo website it says they are for underground use.
Re-furbish the Hitachi's!! All for it I say. However the Siemens were designed for longer running than the X'Traps. Just like Fed. Square, you think its great and when its finished youy hate it and cant get rid of it.
Mo.Mo is a No.No
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vicsig
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 1:51 pm
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| ptc wrote: | | Re-furbish the Hitachi's!! All for it I say. |
We already did in the 90s
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Nexas
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 7:51 pm
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| ptc wrote: | | Re-furbish the Hitachi's!! |
As I mentioned in another thread, Most Hitachi's have already been refurbished, only a handful of Connex Hitachi's didn't get refurbished, but all of M>Train's sets did.
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vicsig
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 8:22 pm
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| Nexas wrote: | | ptc wrote: | | Re-furbish the Hitachi's!! |
As I mentioned in another thread, Most Hitachi's have already been refurbished, only a handful of Connex Hitachi's didn't get refurbished, but all of M>Train's sets did. |
Sets 92 ish to 104 in the refurbishment program were not a full refurbishment, the railways were getting very cheap by this stage.
Last set, 104 was out around Christmas 2000.
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XP2009
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 5:24 pm
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Just reconfirming this are they actually going to fix these trains
Cheers Joel
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Nexas
The Ghost of George Stephenson
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 9:25 pm
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I saw a 6-car Siemens (without Livery) today at South Yarra at 14.11 
Surely thats a good sign... especially about the fact today was wet, could it have been testing new brakes?
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tayser
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 9:29 pm
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| Nexas wrote: | I saw a 6-car Siemens (without Livery) today at South Yarra at 14.11
Surely thats a good sign... especially about the fact today was wet, could it have been testing new brakes? |
There's also been one 3-car set missing from the Dandy sidings (have been 4 for a few weeks now)
tays
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mjja
Sir Nigel Gresley
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 11:57 am
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Missing as in someone's nicked it? Broke in one night and strolled off with it in their pocket?
Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"
Michael Angelico
President, Smart Passengers Inc
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