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    kuldalai posted 13 Aug 2016 15:29
    Posted in Victoria » Z Car update

    As of today. There are 11 Z cars still out on repairs.

    During 2014 a number were returned to service. Now these cars are also due for rewheel.

    Car sets which had Z cars are now back only as 3 N cars. N6 and N4 should have Z cars but these are at Newport.

    From what I understand the frame crack issues have surfaced again.

    Some of the Z cars still haven't turned a wheel since the original issue started with the complete withdrawal of the cars. They have sat in Newport in the same spot since 2012?

    N cars on Broad Gauge are going through springs something odd. FN 10 had new springs on most bogies fitted recently.

    In good news FN12 is back ex overhaul and the Z car 264? Had replacement bogies fitted at the same time.

    Good post, thanks.

    Replacing 4 wheelsets should take less than 24 hours out of service.

    If the frame cracking is conformed, does not their replacement with identical ones meet one of the definitions of madness :

    Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.... :roll:

    YM-Mundrabilla

    The cracking is allegedly due to the quality control steel wise in the pouring of the original bogies, which has only surfaced as a potential issue in recent years .  The design is quite sound, so new bogie frames  ONLY  (there is nothing wrong with the wheels) cast to strict quality standards is quite  OK .

    Broken springs everywhere is no doubt due to the large number of mud spots on the bg network many of which have been there for years just getting worse, and VLP do NOTHING to remove them despite being given extra $  for track maintenance in this years State Budget .  e:g:  Down side Mc Killop St lx South Geelong been there for years .  Caused a broken rail in June, 2015 ,   but still nothing done.  Track re laid through lx  late last year, but all VLP did was pour a tonne of ballast on the mud hole.  So of course not having addressed the underlying issue of the drainage, it has now re appeared better than ever this year. Up side St Georges Road  lx at North Shore on west L:ine bad mud hole very rough ride, again VLP does nothing .

    Edit history

    Edited 14 Aug 2016 19:48, 5 years ago, edited by kuldalai

    As of today. There are 11 Z cars still out on repairs.

    During 2014 a number were returned to service. Now these cars are also due for rewheel.

    Car sets which had Z cars are now back only as 3 N cars. N6 and N4 should have Z cars but these are at Newport.

    From what I understand the frame crack issues have surfaced again.

    Some of the Z cars still haven't turned a wheel since the original issue started with the complete withdrawal of the cars. They have sat in Newport in the same spot since 2012?

    N cars on Broad Gauge are going through springs something odd. FN 10 had new springs on most bogies fitted recently.

    In good news FN12 is back ex overhaul and the Z car 264? Had replacement bogies fitted at the same time.

    Good post, thanks.

    Replacing 4 wheelsets should take less than 24 hours out of service.

    If the frame cracking is conformed, does not their replacement with identical ones meet one of the definitions of madness :

    Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.... :roll:

    YM-Mundrabilla

    The cracking is due to the quality control steel wise in the pouring of the original bogies.  The design is quite sound, so new bogie frames  ONLY  (there is nothing wrong with the wheels) cast to strict quality standards is quite  OK .

    Broken springs everywhere is no doubt due to the large number of mud spots on the bg network many of which have been there for years just getting worse, and VLP do NOTHING to remove them despite being given extra $  for track maintenance in this years State Budget .  e:g:  Down side Mc Killop St lx South Geelong been there for years .  Caused a broken rail in June, 2015 ,   but still nothing done.  Track re laid through lx  late last year, but all VLP did was pour a tonne of ballast on the mud hole.  So of course not having addressed the underlying issue of the drainage, it has now re appeared better than ever this year. Up side St Georges Road  lx at North Shore on west L:ine bad mud hole very rough ride, again VLP does nothing .

    Edited 13 Aug 2016 19:31, 5 years ago, edited by kuldalai

    As of today. There are 11 Z cars still out on repairs.

    During 2014 a number were returned to service. Now these cars are also due for rewheel.

    Car sets which had Z cars are now back only as 3 N cars. N6 and N4 should have Z cars but these are at Newport.

    From what I understand the frame crack issues have surfaced again.

    Some of the Z cars still haven't turned a wheel since the original issue started with the complete withdrawal of the cars. They have sat in Newport in the same spot since 2012?

    N cars on Broad Gauge are going through springs something odd. FN 10 had new springs on most bogies fitted recently.

    In good news FN12 is back ex overhaul and the Z car 264? Had replacement bogies fitted at the same time.

    Good post, thanks.

    Replacing 4 wheelsets should take less than 24 hours out of service.

    If the frame cracking is conformed, does not their replacement with identical ones meet one of the definitions of madness :

    Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.... :roll:

    YM-Mundrabilla

    The cracking is due to the quality control steel wise in the poring of the original bogies.  The design is quite sound, so new bogie frames  ONLY  (there is nothing wrong with the wheels) cast to strict quality standards is quite  OK .

    Broken springs everywhere is no doubt due to the large number of mud spots on the bg network many of which have been there for years just getting worse, and VLP do NOTHING to remove them despite being given extra $  for track maintenance in this years State Budget .  e:g:  Down side Mc Killop St lx South Geelong been there for years .  Caused a broken rail in June, 2015 ,   but still nothing done.  Track re laid through lx  late last year, but all VLP did was pour a tonne of ballast on the mud hole.  So of course not having addressed the underlying issue of the drainage, it has now re appeared better than ever this year. Up side St Georges Road  lx at North Shore on west L:ine bad mud hole very rough ride, again VLP does nothing .

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