Edited 28 Dec 2020 13:48, 2 years ago, edited by Lockspike

CC, is a fairly common term these days especially when news channels refer to train running within the general district from the Metro area to Wickham/Newcastle interchange.  Also part changing and referrals to the Central Coast lines are announced on regional news as Central Coast line for delay and on time type of running's. CC was used for commuter trains running as far as Gosford and later extended to include Wyong services. Both being terminating/turn round stations for trains each way.

Short North has not been a term used these days very much. In the older days especially when engine changes were carried out out at Gosford, other words prior to the NCL line being the more common short term name for the line meaning NCL being for NewCastle Line.  A similar tag was applied for trains from Sydney to Goulburn being deemed Short South, the likes of the Illawarra and the Western line had other tags such as the mountains for the line to Lithgow, and the Illawarra being deemed nothing more than The coast, or Illawarra.

These days, with through running on trains heading out of Sydney and going through Broadmeadow and heading to Werris Creek or the North Coast Line, and they do not have engine changes or crew changes until Taree and WCK are reached.

The crews working colies as far as the Ulan line and other collieries are just deemed as being "The Valley" working.

Of course Sydney - Newcastle is the Short North. When I hear of terms such as Central Coast Line, I just switch off; it has been dumbed down by ignorant public officials and 'media', speaking to an even more ignorant public, who barely know what a train is.

As a6et stated, colloquially there was the Short South, and there was the Deep South also (do I really need to explain that one?), but not a Short or Far West (in railway terms), nor a Far Nth (but the Far Side was funny). The Sth Coast was just 'The Illa".

As for the NCL, 'Lines' were known by their name, i.e: Main South, Main West (Syd - Bourke), Main North (Syd - Wallangarra), Illawarra Main (Syd - Bomaderry), etc. As for the Nth Coast, that overgrown branch line was the North Coast Main. Speaking of which, branches were most commonly known by locality at the end of the line.

For those of you who are 'on the job', a lot of this knowledge comes from learning the wisdom of the old hands, ignore it at your peril. As for outside of the the job, go learn your railway history, it will throw an amazing light on your understanding of the railway.

Edited 28 Dec 2020 13:09, 2 years ago, edited by Lockspike

CC, is a fairly common term these days especially when news channels refer to train running within the general district from the Metro area to Wickham/Newcastle interchange.  Also part changing and referrals to the Central Coast lines are announced on regional news as Central Coast line for delay and on time type of running's. CC was used for commuter trains running as far as Gosford and later extended to include Wyong services. Both being terminating/turn round stations for trains each way.

Short North has not been a term used these days very much. In the older days especially when engine changes were carried out out at Gosford, other words prior to the NCL line being the more common short term name for the line meaning NCL being for NewCastle Line.  A similar tag was applied for trains from Sydney to Goulburn being deemed Short South, the likes of the Illawarra and the Western line had other tags such as the mountains for the line to Lithgow, and the Illawarra being deemed nothing more than The coast, or Illawarra.

These days, with through running on trains heading out of Sydney and going through Broadmeadow and heading to Werris Creek or the North Coast Line, and they do not have engine changes or crew changes until Taree and WCK are reached.

The crews working colies as far as the Ulan line and other collieries are just deemed as being "The Valley" working.

Of course Sydney - Newcastle is the Short North. When I hear of terms such as Central Coast Line, I just switch off; it has been dumbed down by ignorant public officials and 'media', speaking to an even more ignorant public, who barely know what a train is.

As a6et stated, colloquially there was the Short South, and there was the Deep South also (do I really need to explain that one?), but not a Short or Far West (in railway terms), nor a Far Nth (but the Far Side was funny). The Sth Coast was just 'The Illa".

As for the NCL, 'Lines' were known by their name, i.e: Main South, Main West (Syd - Bourke), Main North (Syd - Wallangarra), Illawarra Main (Syd - Bomaderry), etc. As for the Nth Coast, that overgrown branch line was the North Coast Main. Speaking of which, branches were most commonly known by locality at the end of the line.

For those 'on the job', lot of this knowledge comes from learning the wisdom of the old hands, ignore it at your peril. As for outside of the the job, go learn your railway history, it will throw an amazing light on your understanding of the railway.

Edited 28 Dec 2020 13:08, 2 years ago, edited by Lockspike

CC, is a fairly common term these days especially when news channels refer to train running within the general district from the Metro area to Wickham/Newcastle interchange.  Also part changing and referrals to the Central Coast lines are announced on regional news as Central Coast line for delay and on time type of running's. CC was used for commuter trains running as far as Gosford and later extended to include Wyong services. Both being terminating/turn round stations for trains each way.

Short North has not been a term used these days very much. In the older days especially when engine changes were carried out out at Gosford, other words prior to the NCL line being the more common short term name for the line meaning NCL being for NewCastle Line.  A similar tag was applied for trains from Sydney to Goulburn being deemed Short South, the likes of the Illawarra and the Western line had other tags such as the mountains for the line to Lithgow, and the Illawarra being deemed nothing more than The coast, or Illawarra.

These days, with through running on trains heading out of Sydney and going through Broadmeadow and heading to Werris Creek or the North Coast Line, and they do not have engine changes or crew changes until Taree and WCK are reached.

The crews working colies as far as the Ulan line and other collieries are just deemed as being "The Valley" working.

Of course Sydney - Newcastle is the Short North. When I hear of terms such as Central Coast Line, I just switch off; it has been dumbed down by ignorant public officials and 'media', speaking to an even more ignorant public, who barely know what a train is.

As a6et stated, colloquially there was the Short South, and there was the Deep South also (do I really need to explain that one?), but not a Short or Far West (in railway terms), nor a Far Nth (but the Far Side was funny). The Sth Coast was just 'The Illa".

As for the NCL, 'Lines' were known by their name, i.e: Main South, Main West (Syd - Bourke), Main North (Syd - Wallangarra), Illawarra Main (Syd - Bomaderry), etc. As for the Nth Coast, that overgrown branch line was the North Coast Main. Speaking of which, branches were most commonly known by locality at the end of the line.

for those 'on the job', lot of this knowledge comes from learning the wisdom of the old hands, ignore it at your peril. As for outside of the the job, go learn your railway history, it will throw an amazing light on your understanding of the railway.