discount fares for good looking people to make the average public transport user more attractive
Reminds me of a certain scene in Ali G Indahouse.
I'm pretty sure that they have always had an issue fee for the cards since they started. I'm not aware of any data that suggests that cards were being thrown away in London in large quantities.
Hi Revenue - I was in London in October 2003 when Oyster was first offered to the general public. I got an Oyster card for free... all I had to do was put a Tube TravelCard value on it (I paid for a weekly) and a couple of days later, the Oyster card arrived. No additional fees applied at that point in time.
The current £3 "refundable deposit" for the issue of an Oyster Card was introduced in May this year. If they were free prior to that as an "introductory offer" then that offer has run for several years!
Something changed in May as when I was in London in April there were posters up everywhere advising of the introduction of this charge. As it wasn't relevant to me (I use Travelcard) I didn't fully absorb the context. I wonder if they meant the fee is now non-refundable?
One-way ticket to reach your destination, including transfers between any transport modes within 2 hours*.
* Transfers must be made between different route numbered services (return journeys are not permitted). Passengers travelling through 11 zones or more will have their final transfer time extended by 90 minutes.
So a person can’t uses this ticket in S.E Queensland to do a return trip for example going do their shopping in two hours and use the same ticket to go home on.
It would be great if they could do a return trip on this ticket because then TransLink will get more people using their services.
I was talking about how MYKI works out the fare, MYKI in Melbourne it would work out by / the weekly by 10.
It now no longer called Seniors Sunday pass and now know as the Sunday pass.
I'm pretty sure that already is there...
I am not happy that the all zones travel for weekends is being scrapped. This is a great incentive for people to buy periodical tickets and is one of main reasons that I buy a weekly.
I am really starting to think that the people/hardware/software behind Myki just cannot be trusted to do the correct thing with my money.
As someone who always cops PT related questions from friends and colleagues, I will be advising to stick to Metcard as long as it stays with us and to go for Myki short-term (pay in advance) tickets when Myki is all we have.
Weekly tickets on V/Line are very very heavily discounted. If we were to change fares so that the single ticket was 1/10th of the weekly price, then we would increase the cost of the weekly, rather than decrease the cost of a single! There are no plans to change the current prices for V/Line. Don't forget that V/Line has off-peak fares which changes the relationship as well.
The key thing with myki is that if someone goes wrong (which shouldn't happen of course), then it can be corrected. In most cases this can happen automatically without any need for the customer to apply for a refund.
I would be comfortable if I could 'see' how my money is being deducted. If the myki card is like a debit card, is there anyway that I can see what my balance is, or better yet, see what individual fares I have been charged recently ?
Revenue, again thank you. You are doing as great job in keeping us informed!Customers will be able to view previous transactions in a few ways:
- at stations at the vending machine
- at stations at the stand alone enquiry machine (the blue ones, rather than the green ones at stations)
Thats fine if you are a train user. Not so fine, otherwise.
There are rural users in areas such as those in Geelong, Ballarat, who are Myki users who don't use the train, only buses, and who don't have access to the net at home. Alot of passengers who fit into the category include the elderly, and the infirm, and to simply ask them to pop into the station to check is unreasonable to say the least.
How will these passengers find out about their previous transactions?
My understanding was that the blue readers would be on trams. Will they be on buses? If they were, that would suffice to check balances.
I also see no reason why the green ones couldn't display balances.
Just one question from me, will people be expected to scan on when they board a train replacement bus. If so how does the system figure out whats going on?
SEMs (Stand-Alone Enquiry Machines) will not be provided on buses or trams.
This benefit is only used by a very small number of customers. The cost to travel outside your zone on weekends will be very small - as you'll only have to pay the difference between the fare you would otherwise have had to pay, and the $3 weekend rate (which means you'll probably have to pay about six cents a day to travel in Zone 2 on weekends - and that's not a typo - six cents.
Can everyone be charged a provisional fare?
No. If you touch on in a zone covered by a valid myki pass, you will not pay a provisional fare.
So, if you don't really fancy the idea of tagging off (or getting penalised if you forget), stick to the short term paper tickets or Myki Pass and avoid Myki Money like the plague.
This may seem a dumb question; but is it possible to look at; in the middle to long term; installing SEM's at certain platform stops?
When you have the space (for example the island stops @ University; Swanston/Flinders Streets) it would make perfect sense with the amount of people using the stop.
Obviously you couldn't do it at say Fed Square; due to heaps of passenger movement.
I'm a little confused as how its only 6c. Would you be able to explain the formula that means that the it will only be 6c to travel into Zone 2 on weekends please.
Will fares increase because of myki?
No, the introduction of myki will not result in an increase to fares."