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      137M Junior Train Controller

    Location: Ringwood East
    Tonights sighting

    129M-1977T-179M - 21M-1909T-10M
    i think it ran the 4.57pm Blackburn service
    then it ran a Flinders street service to which then it formed my 6.10 Ringwood service.


    137M
    Posted: 13 Aug 2009 19:26

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      574M White Guru

    Location: Shepparton
    On the subject of the Hitachi M Cars getting renumbered. If the X'Traopolis Cars on order went from 967M onwards then they would clash with the Comeng Trailer Cars (1001T onwards)
    "comeng301M"


    One would think not as they would be classified as M  cars and the comenge cars as T , if the computer system cannt tell the differance its a pretty poor system they are using or it may just be a case of someone decided gee better make it look like im doing something

    Bill
    "Bills_Billboards"


    Is it an issue with the TDS and what hangs each side of a trailer?

    For the purposes of TDS, I believe a train is a trailer with a TDS identifier clamped onto the side, and motors on each end of the trailer?

    Is is something to do with that?
    Posted: 13 Aug 2009 20:10
      tomohawk Chief Commissioner

    Location: Getting The Met to get around


    Is it an issue with the TDS and what hangs each side of a trailer?

    For the purposes of TDS, I believe a train is a trailer with a TDS identifier clamped onto the side, and motors on each end of the trailer?

    Is is something to do with that?
    "574M"


    TDS is no longer used. I believe it was replaced with POTS.
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 13:48
      Haydenthegunzel Chief Commissioner

    Location: Banned
    According to Vicsig, the Hitachis are bring numbered 273M up.
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 17:32
      comeng301M Chief Commissioner

    Location: Melbourne, VIC
    99M-1946T-89M 225M-1994T-7M
    Stabled at Mordialloc between peaks today
    5:16pm Down Cranbourne Service (7M Leading)
    Currently Stabled at Cranbourne

    144M-1919T-9M 233M-2007T-23M
    4:38pm Down Alamein Service service at Flinders Street
    7:01pm Down Ringwood Service
    Currently Stabled at Ringwood

    10M-1910T-21M 179M-1977T-129M
    4:57pm Down Blackburn Service
    6:10pm Down Belgrave Service (129M Leading)
    Currently Stabled at Ringwood

    57M-1922T-184M 49M-1987T-196M
    5:20pm Down Upfield Service
    6:48pm Down Cranbourne Service
    Currently Stabled at Cranbourne

    88M-1982T-65M 22M-1975T-46M
    5:21pm Down Pakenham Service
    Currently Stabled at Westall

    178M-1999T-105M 3M-1981T-197M
    Currently in North Melbourne Sidings

    37M-1979T-36M 110M-1910T-42M
    Still at Newport Workshops
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 22:15
      137M Junior Train Controller

    Location: Ringwood East

    144M-1919T-9M 233M-2007T-23M
    Currently Stabled at Ringwood

    10M-1910T-21M 179M-1977T-129M
    Currently Stabled at Ringwood




    Which side are they stabled on ?  the Belgrave side or Lilydale side ?


    137M
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 22:54
      fullofrubbish Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Brunswick

    57M-1922T-184M 49M-1987T-196M
    5:20pm Down Upfield Service ...
    "comeng301M"


    Unbeleviable!
    That's been my regular home pretty much all year and the one time I choose to hang out in the city a bit longer, the Hitachi comes out Rolling Eyes
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 22:56
      Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Terminating at Ringwood
    144M is on the Belgrave side. I didn't see the other set as I came from Ringwood East in 305M (a rare sight at this time of night down here).
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 23:17
      712M Chief Commissioner

    According to Vicsig, the Hitachis are bring numbered 273M up.
    "Hayden the Gunzel"

    According to Vicsig New set numbers will be as follows:

    7M-1994T-225M - 89M-1946T-99M will become 295M-1994T-296M - 281M-1946T-282M
    37M-1979T-36M - 110M-1910T-42M will become 288M-1979T-287M - 276M-1910T-275M
    57M-1922T-184M - 49M-1987T-196M will become 279M-1922T-280M - 293M-1987T-294M
    46M-1975T-22M - 65M-1982T-88M will become 284M-1975T-283M - 291M-1982T-292M
    129M-1977T-179M - 21M-1909T-10M will become 285M-1977T-286M - 274M-1909T-273M
    144M-1919T-9M - 233M-2007T-23M will become 278M-1919T-277M - 300M-2007T-299M
    197M-1981T-3M - 105M-1999T-178M will become 290M-1981T-289M - 297M-1999T-298M

    So the M cars will be renumbered and the T cars will not. Wink
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 23:34
      The Met Chief Commissioner

    Location: 37.55-S /145.01-E
    Rode 46M and friends all the way into the city on the Frankston Line.

    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but there was a few power issues with the train.

    Running express between Malvern and South Yarra - the train suffered a power cut for a second on two occasions during the express run. The light's flicker, and the doors released for a second - some nufty leaning on the door had it open about a rulers length, before the power got back and the door closed again...
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 23:53
      Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Terminating at Ringwood
    They didn't put much thought into the new numbering... 7M from 1973 now has a 'newer' number than 197M from 1980, and the numbers don't even follow into the permanently coupled 6 car sets!

    Suppose, it sort of fits the 'refurbishment' they received, some fuzzy cloth seat covers from Alstom's parts bin, two office air conditioners bolted on the roof and a loss of two inches' headroom under them. They couldn't even be bothered upgrading the cabs/aircon in the middle of each set with only 14 centre cabs; three of which were already modified to lead a train in the first place!
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 02:39
      Westernport Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Not In Service
    They didn't put much thought into the new numbering... 7M from 1973 now has a 'newer' number than 197M from 1980, and the numbers don't even follow into the permanently coupled 6 car sets!
    "Heihachi_73"

    Stupidly they've decided to renumber then according to the number of the T car, hence why 7M becomes 295M because its T-car is higher numbered than that of 10M and co.

    You would think that they would renumber the sets in terms of age, but no with the network we have.  Rolling EyesLaughing
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 10:23
      Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Terminating at Ringwood
    It seems that the lower numbered M car in each set is also the lower renumbered car, that's why the 46M set looks to be numbered backwards (because 22M is the centre motor).

    It's still dumb why they are numbering the future X'Trapolis starting from 1, especially if they decide to keep the older sets at 851-966.

    Ah well, at least 233M has the 'right' number, and a rear mount panto to fit in with the Comengs! Pity it will never see the light of day at the front, it only predates the first Comeng (303/4/7/8) in service by 13 months.
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 11:09
      METROL Chief Train Controller

    Location: Melbourne,Vic
    Do the Hitachi Trains have a Service Timetable for these following Services? (eg Craigieburn, Sydenham etc...)

    Thanks
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 12:53
      712M Chief Commissioner

    7M-1994T-225M - 89M-1946T-99M and 57M-1922T-184M - 49M-1987T-196M received new stickers with the new numbers this morning at Cranbourne.
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 13:28
      Taitset Chief Commissioner

    Location: Eltham, (former) vintage safeworking capital of Melbourne
    Do the Hitachi Trains have a Service Timetable for these following Services? (eg Craigieburn, Sydenham etc...)

    Thanks
    "METROL"

    No. However they are usually restricted to peak hour running.
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 17:53
      METROL Chief Train Controller

    Location: Melbourne,Vic
    Do the Hitachi Trains have a Service Timetable for these following Services? (eg Craigieburn, Sydenham etc...)

    Thanks
    "METROL"

    No. However they are usually restricted to peak hour running.
    "Taitset"


    Do they Follow a Specific Timetable?
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 18:30
      Somebody in the WWW Banned

    Location: Banned
    Noticed 144M stabled at Ringworm when I went past this morning, and when I caught another train back from Sillydale, 278M was in it's place Razz

    Do they Follow a Specific Timetable?
    "METROL"

    No, there is a few set runs but they are often not adhered to. They don't run after 9:30am until 2:30pm, and after 8pm.
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 19:04
      Craig Chief Commissioner

    Location: Edithvale, VIC
    Dear All

    Some shots of renumbered sets taken at Cranbourne this afternoon:


    282M (former 99M)


    294M (former 196M)


    282M & 294M enjoy the winter sunshine.

    Kind Regards


    Craig Smile
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 19:29
      Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    275/288M or 37/42M is at Newport,
    290/298M or 178/197M is at West Melbourne,
    278/299M or 23/144M is at Ringwood,
    and 46/88M got renumbered at 4.00pm - to 284/292M - at Westall
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 19:36
      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    They didn't put much thought into the new numbering... 7M from 1973 now has a 'newer' number than 197M from 1980, and the numbers don't even follow into the permanently coupled 6 car sets!
    "Heihachi_73"

    The sets have probably had the crap flogged out of the for so long, that the "actual" age of the components and amount of wear bears little relationship to when they entered service. In addition it probably makes it easier for staff having the M car numbers consecutive by set, than totally random.
    Posted: 15 Aug 2009 22:14
      shrekman Junior Train Controller

    Location: E.R.D.
    There was a set in 4 road at ringwood yard this arvo getting new numbers too. No idea which ones. Bit hard to tell when your driving past at 40 kph.
    Posted: 16 Aug 2009 00:36
      fast01 BUTTSCRATCHER!

    Location: Somewhere your not.
    I may have missed the information as to why they are getting re-numbered, so could someone enlighten me?
    Posted: 16 Aug 2009 11:49
      vlocity160 V/Gunzel

    I may have missed the information as to why they are getting re-numbered, so could someone enlighten me?
    "fast01"
    I have been informed that they are being renumbered because the newest X'Traps on order are going to begin their road numbers at the numbers which the Hitachi's once held. 1M etc. Or so it appears above.
    Posted: 16 Aug 2009 13:02
      Sammy D Chief Commissioner

    Location: Melbourne, Victoria
    273 and co spent a day at the racecourse today.
    Posted: 17 Aug 2009 19:18

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