Why Is Railpage Becoming Full Of Continuous Dribble ?

 
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
My thoughts?

Well as it's been mentioned here I do have Asperger's,[...]
"GT46C-ACe"


Stuff me - well written thoughts, and I never would have typecast you into any sort of group. You post rarely (I mostly recognise you due to the avatar Wink), but I've never taken issue with your posts.

It bugs me too, when people use Aspergers or Autism as a crutch to behave like a yo-yo (or dyslexia, etc etc). I know people with all of the aforementioned traits, and I associate with these people because they are people, born with this trait. Just because it has been classified and has a name, etc, doesn't mean that there's anything "wrong" with them when compared to someone like myself.

I can't stand when people treat someone differently - I take people on the quality of their posts, nothing more, nothing less. If you're sensible and post like a responsible person, you could be a three-breasted alien for all I care (yes, that got a lot of peoples attention, didn't it?).

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  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
you could be a three-breasted alien for all I care
"Raichase"


  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
So what can really be defined as dribble. Ones man's dribble, is another man's bit of choice info. Sort of like rubbish really, one man's treasure is another man's junk. 8)
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
you could be a three-breasted alien for all I care
"Raichase"


"Sir Thomas Bent"


That is hilarious.
  jjbc Junior Train Controller

you could be a three-breasted alien for all I care
"Raichase"


"Sir Thomas Bent"

That may be true, but has Kuato been in contact with the SA Consortium?
  GT46C-ACe Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
My thoughts?

Well as it's been mentioned here I do have Asperger's,[...]
"GT46C-ACe"


Stuff me - well written thoughts, and I never would have typecast you into any sort of group. You post rarely (I mostly recognise you due to the avatar Wink), but I've never taken issue with your posts.
"Raichase"


No doubt only because of the avatar Laughing

Really tho I prefer to read what the more informed have to say than run my own mouth on forums.
  newington Chief Commissioner

Location: Here, very occasionally.
Ok, I stopped posting on Railpage yonks ago (until recently), only sticking to Model Rail and Where Is Its, because every time a sensible post or suggestion was made in the NSW or Syd Suburban forum, some geese called: gilberations, boxythingy, sydnytrain and others all filled up the threads with 'It would be cool if.....' or 'I want to see....' or some dribble of that ilk. Eventually, enough was enough and users such as myself, NR52, White04321 and others, got jack of all the crap going on un-moderated and left. Clearly, our contribution wasn't wanted.



I'll go back into lurking now
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Ok, I stopped posting on Railpage Australia™ yonks ago (until recently), only sticking to Model Rail and Where Is Its, because every time a sensible post or suggestion was made in the NSW or Syd Suburban forum, some geese called: gilberations, boxythingy, sydnytrain and others all filled up the threads with 'It would be cool if.....' or 'I want to see....' or some dribble of that ilk. Eventually, enough was enough and users such as myself, NR52, White04321 and others, got jack of all the crap going on un-moderated and left. Clearly, our contribution wasn't wanted.



I'll go back into lurking now
"newington"


At least you didn't have A78...
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Ok, I stopped posting on Railpage Australia™ yonks ago (until recently), only sticking to Model Rail and Where Is Its, because every time a sensible post or suggestion was made in the NSW or Syd Suburban forum, some geese called: gilberations, boxythingy, sydnytrain and others all filled up the threads with 'It would be cool if.....' or 'I want to see....' or some dribble of that ilk. Eventually, enough was enough and users such as myself, NR52, White04321 and others, got jack of all the crap going on un-moderated and left. Clearly, our contribution wasn't wanted.



I'll go back into lurking now
"newington"


Please don't be offended by this, but some of your early posts were probably not much better. You have "grown up" and turned into a good contributor, don't let them put you off...
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Clearly, our contribution wasn't wanted. I'll go back into lurking now
"newington"


 You have "grown up" and turned into a good contributor, don't let them put you off...
"Graham4405"


I agree with Graham as your posts have what I call worthwhile content. I suggest you check the annoying posts to see if they are from people who have their bodies and brains in separate post code areas! 
  BM3801 Lobster

Location: Go Hard or Go Home!
Please don't be offended by this, but some of your early posts were probably not much better.
"Graham4405"


Many people when they first started probably fall into this group. Its up to them to choose whether they listen to the current membership and grow into a valuable poster, or continue to go along the path they first started with.

Im on Railpage because I want to learn about railways, a passion I have had my whole life. I have learnt things on here that I never would have known existed and Ive made some very good friends that I talk to and meet up with off line alot, but at
 first, I know I was an annoying poster and Im glad some of the older members helped to show me the right way to go about things-there are a few in particular who know who they are, and I am grateful for their friendship and advice. Since then Ive stuck to talking about what I know about and am good at- Photos mainly, Motorsport discussions in the lounge, and Preservation-  rather than trying to talk about things I dont know about, although I will dip into other topics when I have an idea whats going on.

Railpage is here to discuss railways and I can see why people are upset about threads being derailed by the same topics coming up, especially in Sydney Suburban, but from what Ive seen, some members are now trying to fix that by putting all their discussions in one thread which is a good step in my eyes. We shouldnt be trying to discourage discussion, but rather make sure that the members that want to talk about one topic can do so without annoying everyone else by derailing other threads with the discussion. Good examples of this are here and here, where the members have started a new thread on a topic to make sure they arnt destroying another. Although the first one was thanks to another thread outlining this problem with Sydney Suburban, in my opinion it was good thinking by these members to create new threads where they could talk and not disturb others. 

There will always be posters on here that try to cause trouble thats a fact, and there will always be threads that will go massively off topic, but most people may just be discussing their hobby, like the rest of us. Who cares if someones personal interest is sparks, who are you to put them down for it? You may be interested in what C501 is up to in Victoria, or where 3642 is running next, and you have a right on here to talk about it (up to moderators and admins discretion of course) as long as you do it in the right way such as the examples above where other members can steer well clear if they want to 
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Ok, I stopped posting on Railpage Australia™™ yonks ago (until recently)[...]
"newington"


Please don't be offended by this, but some of your early posts were probably not much better. You have "grown up" and turned into a good contributor, don't let them put you off...
"Graham4405"


I couldn't agree more - on both points. At first, you were just as bad as the people you've named, but now, you're a poster who mostly posts informative and considered posts. Sometimes I don't agree with your viewpoint, but I prefer to disagree with you than to dismiss you because you're just posting dribble.
  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
I would like to make a suggestion if I may. It is quite evident in the Sydney and NSW forums that quite a number of users dislike the content of other users' posts. This problem will never go away while administrators simply tell such users to ignore the other users posts, particularly if some of these users like commenting in a variety of threads.  In order to minimize the loss of users that inhibit a great wealth of knowledge in the rail industry, I suggest there should be a "hide this users' posts" or the equivalent of such an option be given, which is successful in other forums on the internet. Possessing inertia in this issue will not do Railpage any good, and I think quite a few people that use the Sydney and NSW forum will agree with me on this.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
I would like to make a suggestion if I may. It is quite evident in the Sydney and NSW forums that quite a number of users dislike the content of other users' posts. This problem will never go away while administrators simply tell such users to ignore the other users posts, particularly if some of these users like commenting in a variety of threads.  In order to minimize the loss of users that inhibit a great wealth of knowledge in the rail industry, I suggest there should be a "hide this users' posts" or the equivalent of such an option be given, which is successful in other forums on the internet. Possessing inertia in this issue will not do Railpage Australia™ any good, and I think quite a few people that use the Sydney and NSW forum will agree with me on this.
"bowralcommuter"


To add on to this, I would suggest that it work like herring'd posts, i.e. hidden users' posts can still be clicked on and viewed.
  Rodo Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Riverina
Yes, I agree.

This morning I clicked on a few threads and it was mostly people complaining about other people's dribble. The initial posts were dribble written by fairly stupid people who could not express themselves well. The replies were all written by total morons who were hardly even capable of pressing a keyboard button. This was not very exciting reading and we have a little of it even in this thread. 

I then went to a bit of news items etc. These were usually utter garbage that was badly cut and pasted and obviously written by thoroughly incompetent journalists. 

I found it all totally boring and gave up and came here. 


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  Metro Transit Minister for Railways

Location: Error.
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  NR100 Station Master

This may not make any sense, so please bear with me.

While I have been reading some threads in the WA section that are 10+ pages long, I haven't seen any bulls**t yet, but as I'll start to learn even more about other cities working's (e.g Sydney), I will see some bulls**t. I have also seen some posts in the bus forum (which I am on) by the 2 geuss boxythingy and gliberations that are MAJOR bulls**t, and some of them do get deleated (I think ATDB is more strict).

I shall get some sleep, and check how this post has been recieved in the morning.

Cheers!
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
So the future isn't likely to be any improvement. I returned in the hope it might be like the old days and sadly that is no longer the case, the only thing here to do is lurk and maybe make comment where forcibly possible. I believe this site has long since peaked and its been on a downward slope for about 2 and half years now.
"Metro Transit"

This has long been a pet peeve of mine. Yes, you're entitled to an opinion, but if all you're going to do with it is say "this site sucks" then you're not doing anything to help the site, are you?

If you value the resources we have here, then contribute. It doesn't have to be "news" you contribute; why not do a bit of research and write a feature article on something? The site is growing massively; we have the Locations module, our Flickr gallery, and a new Locos database coming soon. The Forums aren't the sole source of data on Railpage.

We have an amazing resource in our membership. How many hundreds, if not thousands of years of collective railway knowledge and experience do they have? Not to mention members like wongm, who thrive on researching and learning, and sharing that knowledge with the public via our Forums.

In that time, the rise of facebook has seen special groups dedicated to railways in various forms, some public and some private where images and questions and other information can be post all the time, the never ending flow of pictures is great and moderation is pretty much self regulated, members are more likely to socialise and group meets happen quite often. On the spot journalism sees events posted more frequently, particuarly sightings and special operations as well.
"Metro Transit"

Facebook has been fantastic for us. 90% of the squabbling that would otherwise happen on Railpage is now happening on Facebook. At the same time, it lets niche groups have their own little place on the Internet; previously, we would have supplied a forum that would require extra moderating time on our behalf, and if the group should ever go dormant reflects poorly on Railpage (in terms of static, out-of-date content on the forums).

As you say, "on the spot journalism" is a bit part of Facebook's impact on the web, but that's only because of the smartphone apps for Facebook. We have our own little plans for that. We also have plans for sightings; we have plans for lots of things, but I don't have enough time to code them all straight away. The rewrite of Railpage has now taken 12 months, and it's far from complete. 

After all of that, if you've made up your mind that Railpage is done for then I have to ask why: why are you still here?

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