Update on Narrow Gauge Rolling Stock at PBR

 
  G41 Chief Commissioner

Location: Footplate of any K class

Just out of curiosity, I know this sounds a stupid question, but are all of PBR's engines (except for the new garrat) of Australian origin/type? The little red stem engine looked American, kind of like the logging engines and some of the other stuff looks almost Toy Train like, like the Darjeeling trains (B class steamers?).
"Railnthusiast"


In short, the NA class locomotives are to original (or there abouts) standard as ordered by the VR. With modern day modifications made. Electric Headlights, swing seats, bigger compressor just to name a few, and 6A being fitted with modified front end.

The little red loco, aka John Benn 861, was built by Decaulville in Germany, for the use on the West Melb Gas Works, and looked alot like sister engine Carbon. (search for pics somewhere). 861 was bought by the mob that use to operate at Wahalla back in the day with leading hand, the late Ron Kain. The loco was dressed up to look some what "wild west" american style, but was the orignal 0-4-0 configeration. Was then bought by C.Reese and transfered to PBR where restoration commenced, including adding pony and trail trucks to make it a 2-4-2ST (saddle tank). The decision was made to keep it in the American Style as when it ran at Wahalla. Carbon was kept orignal as a Side Tank 0-4-0.

This is about what I know, many others would have more information on it as well. Hope this helps to anwser your question though.

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  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
861 and Carbon were built in Belgium and not Germany also they was built at Société Anonyme Usines Métallurgiques du Hainaut - Locomotives Couillet



  Serviceton_Kev Chief Commissioner

Location: Fecking here!

Just out of curiosity, I know this sounds a stupid question, but are all of PBR's engines (except for the new garrat) of Australian origin/type? The little red stem engine looked American, kind of like the logging engines and some of the other stuff looks almost Toy Train like, like the Darjeeling trains (B class steamers?).
"Railnthusiast"


In short, the NA class locomotives are to original (or there abouts) standard as ordered by the VR. With modern day modifications made. Electric Headlights, swing seats, bigger compressor just to name a few, and 6A being fitted with modified front end.

The little red loco, aka John Benn 861, was built by Decaulville in Germany, for the use on the West Melb Gas Works, and looked alot like sister engine Carbon. (search for pics somewhere). 861 was bought by the mob that use to operate at Wahalla back in the day with leading hand, the late Ron Kain. The loco was dressed up to look some what "wild west" american style, but was the orignal 0-4-0 configeration. Was then bought by C.Reese and transfered to PBR where restoration commenced, including adding pony and trail trucks to make it a 2-4-2ST (saddle tank). The decision was made to keep it in the American Style as when it ran at Wahalla. Carbon was kept orignal as a Side Tank 0-4-0.

This is about what I know, many others would have more information on it as well. Hope this helps to anwser your question though.
"G41"


The NA's are VR copies of the Baldwin built 1A and 2A. 1A being a simple cylinder and 2A being a compound. All of the VR built NAs except for 4A were based on 1A while 4A was based on 2A. 
  G41 Chief Commissioner

Location: Footplate of any K class
861 and Carbon were built in Belgium and not Germany also they was built at Société Anonyme Usines Métallurgiques du Hainaut - Locomotives Couillet


"Sammy D"


Whats the difference  Very HappyVery Happy Thanks Sammy D


Yes, 2 and 4 were compound cylinders, and mostly worked on the Whitfield line.
  Serviceton_Kev Chief Commissioner

Location: Fecking here!

861 and Carbon were built in Belgium and not Germany also they was built at Société Anonyme Usines Métallurgiques du Hainaut - Locomotives Couillet


"Sammy D"
Whats the difference Very HappyVery Happy Thanks Sammy D Yes, 2 and 4 were compound cylinders, and mostly worked on the Whitfield line.
"G41"


2A was originally a Whitfield line loco, 4A was originally an UFG-Gembrook loco. 4A was used on the official first train on the 18/12/1901 and was also involved in a derailment not far from the Monbulk Creek trestle bridge that resulted in the introduction of speed recorders placed in the cabs of every VR loco. (Thread in Victoria forum under Speed Recorders)

 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Railways_NA_class   This might help a bit about Na production but doesn't tell you which loco was where at what particular point, someone else can answer that although I THINK 2a was restricted to the Whitfield line but I could be wrong about that. I know one of the nAs were restricted to their line of origin.

  Supt. of Printing Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gembrook Line
861 and Carbon were built in Belgium and not Germany also they was built at Société Anonyme Usines Métallurgiques du Hainaut - Locomotives Couillet


"Sammy D"
Whats the difference Very HappyVery Happy
"G41"


Belgium is a smaller country than Germany, bordering it to the west! Rolling Eyes
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
September 2012 edition now online:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~puffing.billy/monnews.htm
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
October 2012 edition now online:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~puffing.billy/monnews.htm
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
Has anyone heard on when the Museum at Menzies Creek will reopen? I know that the problem with asbestos around the place has been resolved so it should be soon.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Has anyone heard on when the Museum at Menzies Creek will reopen? I know that the problem with asbestos around the place has been resolved so it should be soon.
"jt393"

As I understand it the problem is now of access; a lot of paths and internal flooring is not ready (I'm willing to be corrected, however!)
  S 301 Chief Commissioner

Location: in front of the computer
I'm really not sure if there is an ETA on when it will re-open to the public, as the museum is currently undergoing a redevelopment. I'm sure that when news is ready to be announced on the re-opening of the museum, it will be announced by Puffing Billy/PBPS. Smile


  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
November 2012 edition now online:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~puffing.billy/monnews.htm

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