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  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
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  42101 Banned

Location: Banned
David seeing as its about employment in the rail industry how about letting employers advertise here, you could even make some money out of it for RP.
  cookie930 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Spencer Street Station (Not SCS)
David seeing as its about employment in the rail industry how about letting employers advertise here, you could even make some money out of it for RP.
"42101"


Or maybe have one Sticky at the top where people can post jobs available?
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
42101 that is probally not what we want to do, well at the moment.  I would suggest you PM Bevans with such an idea, as website owner.

We initially do not want to become a informal job placement area. Of course many can and will post "hey I found that xxx arehiring driver"  or "there is a good  positon being offeres, see http://www.linky"

Let's take our time slowly on this.  At the moment it is only hours old, and we are still in a "new forum discovery" mode while members find this forum, or suddenly do not find the thread in a state's forum.  

Anyhow I'm sure you could write up a great on the job report for new prospective people for your side of the rail indistry  Smile

Regards,
David Head
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Job offers won't be advertised here. The money for doing so might be nice, but it opens up a whole other can of worms that will make life more difficult for staff.

People are free to post a link to a job offer on Seek (or similar) and discuss, but that's about as far as I'm prepared to let it Smile
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
I've been involved personally with about 10-11 job boards, and am about to get involved more deeply with the intracacies of said boards in about a week, and there's no way RP could handle it, which is sad in a way - bevans could do with the cash.

One on hand, you could get some smallish ad revenue from placing ads on this forum.

But to set up the appropriate links to such things as screening would require a great degree of tooling of the forum's back end: SQL might handle it but knowing what goes into SQL databases and programs, we'd have to clone michaelgreenhill 152 times to do it. An interesting concept, but I can;t see them all coding away together.

And the ads actual display format such as the HMTL required would IMHO not be compatible with the software that recruiters use to post to job boards, which I don't think the customised php would handle well.  Some places allow quite a lot of HTML encoding and the ads themselves can be quite large.  They also have to be able to be refreshed regularly, and the site would have to receive a lot of advertising to compete with the likes of SEEK, MyCareer and CareerOne as well as the 10 or so startups that I can think of.  Have a look at the history of jobs.com.au to see how many of these fledgeling job boards fail very quickly.

Also, actually getting the software to actually be compatible to your requirement involves paying the software company a substantial fee, five figures in some cases for the 'privilege' of doing so.

Also given that a job board as far as a recruiter is concerned must have the ability to (using a w**kword) 'onboard' the person applying for the job in the system, so it needs to be able to generate an email from the software having full details, attaching a resume and sending it, usually by email to an external recruiter via Outlook, it makes what seems like a good idea into a coding nightmare for what is essentially a tweaked discussion board.
  simont141 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
One idea I had was to have a sticky with websites of all the different rail operators listed (perhaps by state?) that people can use to check for any jobs.

The plus of this is that people from different states who may not necessarily know about operators in other states can use it as a resource.

Here's just an example, but I hope this idea can come into fruition:

National:

Pacific National (website)
SCT (website)
QR National (website)
SSR (website)


SA/NT:

Freightlink (website)
TransAdelaide (website)


NSW:
CityRail (website)


Etc.
  Ned Ludd Assistant Commissioner

Location: Touched by the noodly appendage
Could we have some housekeeping with thread titles? There are a couple of threads that have no indication of which employer/location they refer to. For example 'Train Driver Jobs" is a discussion on working in the Pilbara and 'Driver Recruitment' is a discussion on Connex Melbourne. This may help reduce the number of duplicate threads.

Cheers.
  Rodo Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Riverina
That sounds like a good idea Ned Ludd.

The best thing that I have discovered about this forum so far is the knicker advertisements.
  7777 Station Staff

Can I post the link to Brookfield Rail Vacancies ???? Someone seems to keep removing it , but there are links to other employers posted

Edit : Railcorp ,Metro Trains and  GWA to name a few
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Per the rules, advertising of specific positions is not permitted. I've removed your post as it was reported as such, and I agree.

Discussion about employment prospects that includes a link is not simply a link in a post with nothing else.
  7777 Station Staff

Per the rules, advertising of specific positions is not permitted. I've removed your post as it was reported as such, and I agree.Discussion about employment prospects that includes a link is not simply a link in a post with nothing else.
"KRviator"


That is fair enough ,if the rule is applied to everyone. So will you  be removing the other posts as well then ?? The one below started with just a link ,but now has nearly 65,000 views



http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11360272.htm
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
This post, nothing more than a URL - that in turn shows an opening for a single perway inspector:
http://www.brookfieldrail.com/currentvacancies/currentvacancies.html
"7777"
from a new user with 5 posts isn't really the same as:
http://www.metrotrains.com.au/About-us/Careers/Rail-careers.html
Not now but as of 6pm Melbourne time, today Friday 28 January 2011, according to the staff newsletter, the call for Trainee Drivers will go out on the above link.
"HIDJ"
from someone "on the inside" and with over 4000 posts, that also detailed when and where an opening for suburban trainee's would occur.
  heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

I have over 4000 posts? Gawd.....
  7777 Station Staff

This post, nothing more than a URL - that in turn shows an opening for a single perway inspector:
http://www.brookfieldrail.com/currentvacancies/currentvacancies.html
"7777"
from a new user with 5 posts isn't really the same as:
http://www.metrotrains.com.au/About-us/Careers/Rail-careers.html
Not now but as of 6pm Melbourne time, today Friday 28 January 2011, according to the staff newsletter, the call for Trainee Drivers will go out on the above link.
"HIDJ"
from someone "on the inside" and with over 4000 posts, that also detailed when and where an opening for suburban trainee's would occur.
"KRviator"


So you are saying that if I put detail , such as 'Brookfield Rail are looking for a Perway Patroller at Kewdale ,closing 21/12/12' , and the link to the position , then that would be allowed ?
The Metro Trains link is a link to ALL vacancies ,not just Trainee Drivers ,and lists ALL current vacancies ( same as the Brookfield one) so what is the difference ? ( yes I know ,I only have 5 posts)

PS : I also work in the Rail Industry (over 30 years)

Edit : I don't have a problem with not being able to post links to job vacancies ( I read this in your original intent ,about 3rd post Feb 20 2008) , but it must apply to all ,wether you have 1 post or 10,000 ,so you either allow all or none

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