I am advised today a VL Class will be put onto BG for the Qube Maryvale traffic. Can this be confirmed and if so what number please?Someone in the know posted on ausloco mailing list yesterday that it is correct, and the loco is VL362.
So any ideas on where the BG rollingstock will come from?
Most of the VL's have new cast bogies from NZ, but some of them also have been 're-sourced' 2nd pattern VR bogies - I think 352 is one of them.
Both the old VR bogies and new cast bogies from NZ are gauge convertible.
Whilst witnessing 1st pattern bogies being gauge converted to SG from BG, I had assumed that it was only pushed in discs and cut down brake hangers, but the reality is that new bow-cranks and other linkages are required to be machined in lieu of other parts that come out. It would be the same going from SG out to BG too.
Its 'easy' to do, if you know what you are doing, have a capable workshop and skilled workforce, and as well have the patterns to make the replacement parts - on the other hand, its probably a real biatch if you don't...
So in summary, it doesn't really matter which VL they grab, they are all do-able on the gauge conversion front - it also means that in addition to both G512 (being converted now) and G515 that are on BG, as well as VL362, there are another 11 candidates in the VL class that could also be gauge converted. This would suggest that there is no potential 'shortage' of high horsepower locomotives that could be put on BG, and also means that PN don't have the monopoly on 5'3" locomotives either.
A VL has turned up in melbourne and seems to be missing its logos and numbers according to the photo (Which is on one of the facebook groups). Would this be one of the ones that are meant to go to BG and why might they have pulled off some of the lettering? To me that normally means to loco has been sold however I don't think CFCLA would want to be selling off any of their VL's.It'll probably get repainted since going on BG it'll probably be on a looooooong term lease.
Is there any more news regarding the alleged broad gauge VL. I can't see why you would need to gauge convert a VL when following El Zorros demise there should be plenty of BG locomotives available.You're assuming that said locomotives would be available for sale and/or hire, and, as speedemon08 states, Qube would like to use modern locomotives with good crew comfort, rather than clapped out old bangers to please trackside photographers.
I don't recall suggesting using museum pieces or clapped out locos. The VLs are owned by CFCLA as is the G class recently used on the Maryvale. I don't have a copy of CFCLAs order book so I can't comment on the Gs availability but on its face a CFCLA BG G class would appear to fit QUBES requirements adequately. I will be watching with renewed interest for developments at the end of the month.Yeah, all the two free CFCLA G's are on Broad gauge already (G512 & 515). They need extra power.
Oh, and I am sure that the owners of some of those museum pieces are looking for any available revenue.
I don't recall suggesting using museum pieces or clapped out locos.Not in as many words, but by suggesting that with the demise of El Zorro there would be an abundance of BG power available... most, if not all of the BG power that El Zorro used that was not an AWB owned/operated G Class was indeed a clapped out old loco hired out from a museum.
The VLs are owned by CFCLA as is the G class recently used on the Maryvale. I don't have a copy of CFCLAs order book so I can't comment on the Gs availability but on its face a CFCLA BG G class would appear to fit QUBES requirements adequately. I will be watching with renewed interest for developments at the end of the month. Oh, and I am sure that the owners of some of those museum pieces are looking for any available revenue.CFCL Australia own three G Class. G511 is on long term hire to SSR for NSW traffic. G512 and G515 are already on hire to Qube, on the BG.