Location:
PS I don't see your FIRST name anywhere in your signature.
New uniforms
Faceless
Locomotive Fireman
Location:
SJB
Deputy Commissioner
Location: Sydney, NSW
Even less information on you Faceless....
petey3801
Chief Commissioner
Location: On the rails
Considering station staff here in Queensland have been wearing name tags with their first name displayed for years and the world has yet to come to an end, I don't think it'll be a massive deal in NSW, unlike what some would have you to believe.
Even with the name tags, the vast majority of people posting complaints or compliments on the Queensland Rail Facebook page regarding station staff still say "The guy at x station", "The girl on x platform" etc. People really don't often take notice of name tags, something I also had experience with in the many years I spent in Retail work, wearing a name badge. Customers would only ever give a (fairly poor, really) description of the staff member they were complaining about, virtually never their name, because they simply didn't remember the name of the staff member/didn't care about their name.
Even with the name tags, the vast majority of people posting complaints or compliments on the Queensland Rail Facebook page regarding station staff still say "The guy at x station", "The girl on x platform" etc. People really don't often take notice of name tags, something I also had experience with in the many years I spent in Retail work, wearing a name badge. Customers would only ever give a (fairly poor, really) description of the staff member they were complaining about, virtually never their name, because they simply didn't remember the name of the staff member/didn't care about their name.
Faceless
Locomotive Fireman
Location:
@Archer
Hence the username. From memory a circular floated around a few years ago in regards to posting or commenting on public forums and on Facebook.
In saying that. This will be my last post on RP.
A quick internal check online reveals many details on Trent's, location and position.
.....leaves this sandpit for reality...
Hence the username. From memory a circular floated around a few years ago in regards to posting or commenting on public forums and on Facebook.
In saying that. This will be my last post on RP.
A quick internal check online reveals many details on Trent's, location and position.
.....leaves this sandpit for reality...
Watson374
Chief Commissioner
Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
.....leaves this sandpit for reality..."I reject your reality and substitute my own."
HeadShunt
Chief Train Controller
If they mind it then they can quit.Really?
If you're a manager I'd hate to be working under someone like you. Not only that, I'd be more inclined to dig in my heels and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone.
But really a lot of these guys who have been issued badges could be gone soon anyway, so they probably don't have much to lose by telling the bosses to get bent...
This will be my last post on RP.I'm sorry to hear that.
You could have at least gone out in style by getting yourself banned.
flathog
Chief Commissioner
Location: Central West, NSW
Really?Well, I'd suggest you built a bridge and got over it pretty quickly as it's fairly well standard these days for front line staff to wear a name badge, even back of house staff at my employer must wear a name badge and adhere to the strict customer service protocols that exist should they encounter a customer for whatever reason.
If you're a manager I'd hate to be working under someone like you. Not only that, I'd be more inclined to dig in my heels and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone.
But really a lot of these guys who have been issued badges could be gone soon anyway, so they probably don't have much to lose by telling the bosses to get bent...
People really do dislike change don't they? I truly can not understand the resistance over some really simple things!
HeadShunt
Chief Train Controller
Well, I'd suggest you built a bridge and got over it pretty quickly as it's fairly well standard these days for front line staff to wear a name badge, even back of house staff at my employer must wear a name badge and adhere to the strict customer service protocols that exist should they encounter a customer for whatever reason.I was thinking more of the "if you don't like it, quit" approach than the badge itself.
People really do dislike change don't they? I truly can not understand the resistance over some really simple things!
I wonder how far this badge wearing thing will go as I know for a fact that a large number of non customer service staff were also issued magnetic name badges several years ago, most of which have never been worn and never will be. A big waste of money.
I agree that the badge is a really simple thing. If the staff don't like the proposed change they are legally entitled to follow an agreed process to address their concerns and if they want to go down that road it's their decision. They might get their way, they might not. That's also pretty simple. It might be disturbing to some people to think that just because managers give an order doesn't mean it will be followed, but that is the way it is.
littleal9
Train Controller
Location: bellambi
When I worked at Qantas, we were given a name tag to wear, mine is still in its plastic bag it was delivered in more than 20 years later, never worn. As for the ASIC card it spent most of its life in my shirt pocket due to it getting caught on the equipment i was working with. Never once was I questioned by management about either.
T88
Junior Train Controller
Location: Banned
Well it's not over till the fat lady sings as the saying goes. A mass email has been sent out from a staff member at Penrith in regards to the new uniform.
It's 8 pages long and has some valid points. The staff member has put his name to it and gone over the top of the union and taken a stand. He has requested a meeting with management.
One point of interest that stuck out for me is the colour grey.
It was abolished for transits?
I have a feeling that us train crew will not be getting the same fabric as station staff in regards to the shirts.
I have also been informed that caps, beanies and scarfs are now available for order but not thru Ariba.
It's 8 pages long and has some valid points. The staff member has put his name to it and gone over the top of the union and taken a stand. He has requested a meeting with management.
One point of interest that stuck out for me is the colour grey.
It was abolished for transits?
I have a feeling that us train crew will not be getting the same fabric as station staff in regards to the shirts.
I have also been informed that caps, beanies and scarfs are now available for order but not thru Ariba.
Blackadder
Chief Commissioner
Location: Not the ECRL
Yes Transits went from Blue to Grey to Blue , after grey was deemed to have poor visibilty for the general public, not sure a bit of Orange on a jacket fixes that.
As you mentioned caps,etc are available to order via OIC, how long they take to get here remains to be seen.
Still can't order any additional uniform components, despite being issued with just 2 pants, 1 jumper, 2 long sleeve, 2 short sleeve shirts, and 1 waterproof jacket.
As you mentioned caps,etc are available to order via OIC, how long they take to get here remains to be seen.
Still can't order any additional uniform components, despite being issued with just 2 pants, 1 jumper, 2 long sleeve, 2 short sleeve shirts, and 1 waterproof jacket.
T88
Junior Train Controller
Location: Banned
How ironic. Transits now look like PSA,s. Lots of orange and same black or charcoal pants. Same footwear as well.
sssshhhh!
Beginner
Yes Transits went from Blue to Grey to Blue , after grey was deemed to have poor visibilty for the general publicproof jacket.
Seriously? I thought they wanted to look like cops. They wanted visibility put them in white or bright pink
Watson374
Chief Commissioner
Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Seriously? I thought they wanted to look like cops. They wanted visibility put them in white or bright pinkI understood the transit blue was to replace the grey that was perceived as cold and unfriendly, that projected an image of "CityRail bully boys" (or whatever label the media liked that week).
Blackadder
Chief Commissioner
Location: Not the ECRL
I understood the transit blue was to replace the grey that was perceived as cold and unfriendly, that projected an image of "CityRail bully boys" (or whatever label the media liked that week).
It was a combination of reason, from what I have gathered speaking to some former and current TO's.
T88
Junior Train Controller
Location: Banned
It's seems blue is the new grey? So confused now.
Once again the big wigs running the show have contradicted themselves.
Welcome to the new Sydney Trains or the old Cityrail with a splash of colour.
U decide!
Once again the big wigs running the show have contradicted themselves.
Welcome to the new Sydney Trains or the old Cityrail with a splash of colour.
U decide!
Watson374
Chief Commissioner
Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
It's seems blue is the new grey? So confused now.No, grey is the new blue.
Really doesn't help, amirite?
squires101
Beginner
Please pm me if interested in selling an ex Cityrail spray jacket, would really appreciate!!
SJB
Deputy Commissioner
Location: Sydney, NSW
The CityRail unifrom is still in widespread use by Train Crewing.
T88
Junior Train Controller
Location: Banned
Mutterings around the office water cooler is safety vests will no longer be used by station staff. As the danger zone has changed.
Blackadder
Chief Commissioner
Location: Not the ECRL
Yes rumours have it that the hi-vis vests will be needed only when going on the track, not a fan of the idea but will see what happens.
T88
Junior Train Controller
Location: Banned
Don't think guards will be happy with that decision in the peak at busy underground stations. But I recall a change many years ago when passengers began wearing fluro orange that worked in warehouses etc.
It caused confusion among staff. But ultimately only one person should be holding a white flag. I do ponder if it is a cost saving exercise.
It caused confusion among staff. But ultimately only one person should be holding a white flag. I do ponder if it is a cost saving exercise.
Raichase
Captain Rant!
Location: Sydney, NSW
I do ponder if it is a cost saving exercise.I'd imagine all staff would need to be issued with a vest as part of the uniform regardless.
T88
Junior Train Controller
Location: Banned
Considering "the danger zone" is beyond the yellow line. One has to ask why guards were not made to wear fluro vests in the first place?
Obviously safe working staff like DMs will still need to be issued new vests if they are required to enter the corridor for emergencies like clipping or winding points etc.
Obviously safe working staff like DMs will still need to be issued new vests if they are required to enter the corridor for emergencies like clipping or winding points etc.
SJB
Deputy Commissioner
Location: Sydney, NSW
Wearing Hi-Vis generates the perception around the public that something dangerous is going on, it makes passengers less likely to ask staff in hi-vis for help
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