Misconfigured trains

 
  bramt Deputy Commissioner

Tonight I noticed a comeng with the white lights on at the back of the train, rather than the red. There was a bit of fuss after the Craigieburn rear-end about how important the End Of Train Marker is, but was anything ever done to make them more visible in the dark?

Also, occasionally I've noticed the STOP flag raised on the leading cab of my approaching comeng. Doesn't that mean the brakes are misconfigured?

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  GvhftrKijl Locomotive Driver

Location: ERD
Tonight I noticed a comeng with the white lights on at the back of the train, rather than the red. There was a bit of fuss after the Craigieburn rear-end about how important the End Of Train Marker is, but was anything ever done to make them more visible in the dark?
bramt
Sometimes Drivers forget to switch the marker lights to red whilst changing ends, or if the train is going the other way at Flinders Street.


Also, occasionally I've noticed the STOP flag raised on the leading cab of my approaching comeng. Doesn't that mean the brakes are misconfigured?
bramt
Most likely the Driver is driving on the automatic air brake as opposed to the electric brake, which is the brake used under normal operating conditions.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Sometimes Drivers forget to switch the marker lights to red whilst changing ends, or if the train is going the other way at Flinders Street.


Most likely the Driver is driving on the automatic air brake as opposed to the electric brake, which is the brake used under normal operating conditions.
GvhftrKijl
I may be mistaken, but it is my perception that in recent times there seems to have been an increase in this. Is it a maintenance issue or are the 'old blokes' just keeping in practice?
  GvhftrKijl Locomotive Driver

Location: ERD
I may be mistaken, but it is my perception that in recent times there seems to have been an increase in this. Is it a maintenance issue or are the 'old blokes' just keeping in practice?
YM-Mundrabilla
If you are referring to the driving on the air brake, I am not aware of any maintenance issues that would warrant an increase in it - we're all just keeping in practice (or carrying out our running brake test) Smile
  Some rail man Junior Train Controller

Location: CIA Headquarters in Washington D.C
I have noticed that down Frankston way occasionally
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
If you are referring to the driving on the air brake, I am not aware of any maintenance issues that would warrant an increase in it - we're all just keeping in practice (or carrying out our running brake test) Smile
GvhftrKijl
Fair enough - many thanks.
  bramt Deputy Commissioner

From misconfigured to misrouted (and because the disruptions thread is locked):
My up Craigieburn city loop train this morning went right at Kensington, to my surprise (so via Spion Kop junct). It wasn't until we had been stopped on platform 5 at North Melbourne for at least a minute or two before the driver made an announcement, that to her 'surprise', we'd been misrouted and would not be going via the loop. She apologised for the late notice, saying she'd only just found out. Several hundred people then de-trained.

How could you not know? You can't get to the loop from Spion Kop jct, you'd know as soon as you went right at Kensington. Or sooner if you noticed the path indicator.
And why would you re-route without notifying the driver? Or was this a mistake on the part of the signaller?
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
From misconfigured to misrouted (and because the disruptions thread is locked):
My up Craigieburn city loop train this morning went right at Kensington, to my surprise (so via Spion Kop junct). It wasn't until we had been stopped on platform 5 at North Melbourne for at least a minute or two before the driver made an announcement, that to her 'surprise', we'd been misrouted and would not be going via the loop. She apologised for the late notice, saying she'd only just found out. Several hundred people then de-trained.

How could you not know? You can't get to the loop from Spion Kop jct, you'd know as soon as you went right at Kensington. Or sooner if you noticed the path indicator.
And why would you re-route without notifying the driver? Or was this a mistake on the part of the signaller?
bramt
Most likely the latter. If they were doing it intentionally I think they would have sent it down the East Suburban lines.
  bramt Deputy Commissioner

Do you mean if you were intentionally bypassing the loop you'd take the east lines?
Not so, the 2 scheduled morning direct trains take the west lines via platform 5 (they need to reach the northern group tracks at the viaduct)
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Do you mean if you were intentionally bypassing the loop you'd take the east lines?
Not so, the 2 scheduled morning direct trains take the west lines via platform 5 (they need to reach the northern group tracks at the viaduct)
bramt
I stand corrected.
  hot-axle-box Junior Train Controller

Signallers do occaisionally make mistakes at kensington, it can be one of the cruiziest signal boxes to work at or it can be your worst nightmare
just depends if show or race traffic is on or a smeg of late running. The other side of the argument is that drivers are also responsible for where their train is going, and not to take a signal if it doesn't show an aspect that doesn't make sense. signal 4 at ken shows top green for the ES and bottom green for the BS and if the 1st 2 numbers of their TD number is 58 then they shouldn,t have a bottom green at signal 4. A call to the box and and a 2 min delay is better than going the wrong way. delaying pax and getting metrol in a fluff.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Is this a required procedure or is it an extra thought that some considerate drivers make?
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

Is this a required procedure or is it an extra thought that some considerate drivers make?
route14

As a driver you're supposed to know where you're going. If a signaller is sending you the wrong way then yes, you stop and contact them to find out what's going on.
  hot-axle-box Junior Train Controller

And the signaller will think your a top bloke for calling him up, and saving his butt from being reamed at head orifice! Smile
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

And the signaller will think your a top bloke for calling him up, and saving his butt from being reamed at head orifice! Smile
hot-axle-box

Yes that too, especially under current management!

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