Ettamogah rail hub on track for success

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 06 Mar 2018 13:56
  jcsaws63 Locomotive Driver

Location: 200Mts from the 535k post
ETTAMOGAH rail hub has secured one of its most significant contracts since being established in 2009.



It has clinched two more weekly services from Albury to Brisbane after securing deals to shift 100,000 tonnes of freight annually from three major locally-based manufacturers, Mountain H20, Norske Skog and Mars Petcare.



The hub also operates a freight service for import and export products between Albury and Melbourne, but the additional services to Brisbane was justification of a $10 million investment in the facility by owner Colin Rees.
Ettamogah rail hub on track for success
Good news for our area, Who will be operating this Service?
I think PN pick up there on way from Griffith to Melbourne

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
They sure do ETT I think is the yard/destination code.  Loading is I think sent via MC/CM2 ??
  jcsaws63 Locomotive Driver

Location: 200Mts from the 535k post
So that would mean no more trains, just longer?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Aurizon intermodal is now no longer which raises the question of who drops off and picks up wagons now for this terminal?
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Ettamogah is only about 1.5km from the short (900m) (and out of use) crossing loop at Tabletop. There may be some sense in merging Ettamogah and Tabletop.

See diagram : http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/ARTC/AR252.pdf
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Ettamogah is only about 1.5km from the short (900m) (and out of use) crossing loop at Tabletop. There may be some sense in merging Ettamogah and Tabletop.

See diagram : http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/ARTC/AR252.pdf
awsgc24

Note that Ettamogah is just inside the Up Distant signal for Tabletop. The signals at the out of use loop at Tabletop act as intermediate block signals.

Note also, the the points for Ettamogah are ground frames, which are fondly favoured by NSW.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Aurizon intermodal is now no longer which raises the question of who drops off and picks up wagons now for this terminal?
bevans
I thought that PN ran the hook and pull service for ERH

Wasn't that why PN agreed to sell all those old FA locos to Colin Rees in 2015?

BG
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
That's correct.  Was initially Aurizon but PN has had it for quite sometime.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Aurizon intermodal is now no longer which raises the question of who drops off and picks up wagons now for this terminal?
I thought that PN ran the hook and pull service for ERH

Wasn't that why PN agreed to sell all those old FA locos to Colin Rees in 2015?

BG
BrentonGolding
The main loco's purchased were looked at for the rail hub that was propossed at Griffith.  The council initially approved it but back tracked the approval following pressure from the road transport industry.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
That's correct.  Was initially Aurizon but PN has had it for quite sometime.
Trainplanner

Thanks.  Do we know from what trains loading and attached and detached?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Why is this country being held to ransom by the corrupt road transport industry? Hopeless. Pathetic.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Ettamogah was successful in being shortlisted in the Fixing Country Rail program to lengthen the siding they have to 3500m too.

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/news-and-events/media-releases/albury-rail-project-shortlisted-for-funding
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Why is this country being held to ransom by the corrupt road transport industry? Hopeless. Pathetic.
Carnot
Several things come to mind:

Money
Votes
Incompetent / corrupt governments
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Why is this country being held to ransom by the corrupt road transport industry? Hopeless. Pathetic.
Several things come to mind:

Money
Votes
Incompetent / corrupt governments
YM-Mundrabilla
And a rail industry that is dominated by larger players who want to keep the status quo as is to help them maximise their own profits...
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Ettamogah was successful in being shortlisted in the Fixing Country Rail program to lengthen the siding they have to 3500m too.

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/news-and-events/media-releases/albury-rail-project-shortlisted-for-funding
james.au
The press-release says lengthen "by 3500" not "to 3500".

So it does not preclude lengthening the siding to suit Inland Railway trains of 1800m and 3600m.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Ettamogah was successful in being shortlisted in the Fixing Country Rail program to lengthen the siding they have to 3500m too.

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/news-and-events/media-releases/albury-rail-project-shortlisted-for-funding
The press-release says lengthen "by 3500" not "to 3500".

So it does not preclude lengthening the siding to suit Inland Railway trains of 1800m and 3600m.
awsgc24
Sorry yes.  It clearly states that a 1800m train would be able to be stored on the line.  Question to me now is if the 3500m will absorb the Table Top loop, or if it will go back out the Norske Scog siding?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Why is this country being held to ransom by the corrupt road transport industry? Hopeless. Pathetic.
Several things come to mind:

Money
Votes
Incompetent / corrupt governments
And a rail industry that is dominated by larger players who want to keep the status quo as is to help them maximise their own profits...
james.au

If that was the case, then Aurizon would never have pulled out of the intermodal business. Even the MD of Railpage's favourite operator will tell you that the interstate business is only big enough for two operators.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Who are the two operators now ?
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Who are the two operators now ?
freightgate
Pacific National and Specialized Container Transport.


Jack
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Would anyone describe SCT as an intermodal operator?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Why is this country being held to ransom by the corrupt road transport industry? Hopeless. Pathetic.
Several things come to mind:

Money
Votes
Incompetent / corrupt governments
And a rail industry that is dominated by larger players who want to keep the status quo as is to help them maximise their own profits...

If that was the case, then Aurizon would never have pulled out of the intermodal business. Even the MD of Railpage's favourite operator will tell you that the interstate business is only big enough for two operators.
bingley hall
Im not talking about just interstate intermodals.  Im talking about shorthaul as well for whom I am told directly by prospective entrants that compliance costs are not insignificant.
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
I think I would describe SCT as an intermodal operator.

They move a surprising number of containers from Sydney over the Blue Mountains by road to their Parkes depot, where they are loaded onto flats for onward rail movement towards Perth. That, to me, pretty much defines "inter-modal".
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Then I too agree but why haven't they thought about running a train from Sydney to Parkes if there are many boxes?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Then I too agree but why haven't they thought about running a train from Sydney to Parkes if there are many boxes?
x31

The Armchair Commissioners on RP have thought about, but obviously SCT hasn't Laughing

Cost, pricing model, operational considerations.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Why is this country being held to ransom by the corrupt road transport industry? Hopeless. Pathetic.
Several things come to mind:

Money
Votes
Incompetent / corrupt governments
And a rail industry that is dominated by larger players who want to keep the status quo as is to help them maximise their own profits...

If that was the case, then Aurizon would never have pulled out of the intermodal business. Even the MD of Railpage's favourite operator will tell you that the interstate business is only big enough for two operators.
Im not talking about just interstate intermodals.  Im talking about shorthaul as well for whom I am told directly by prospective entrants that compliance costs are not insignificant.
james.au

But the big operators don't set the compliance charges, the government does. Anecdotally I have been told the cost of accreditation has risen approximately six-fold in the last 20 years.

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