Countrylink delays

 
  nathanmurphy5 Station Master

Location: Blue Mountains



The other aspect is that I actually like travelling by train.

a6et


I actually like travelling by train too! And when going to regional centres like Wagga Wagga it costs a lot to fly with smaller airlines like QantasLink and Regional Express, this makes Countrylink affordable. Usually CountryLink is on time and I'm happy with the service until I ended up 5 hours late back into Sydney on the Melbourne XPT. I know the Melbourne-Sydney XPT has a bad record but 5 hours is pretty bad, because of a 'signalling issue'. I can't say for Countrylink's coaches, never been on one and don't plan to catch one.

However half the problems are half the fun! And sometimes half your wallet.

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  Termite Chief Commissioner

Location: NSW



The whole issue was a consequence of water over the line at Sandgate on the 1st March which culminated in all XPTS on that day being cancelled, with the Casino service having no alternate bus arrangememts. The Grafton XPT terminated at BMD & the set formed a City Rail service at 2000 back to Sydney. 2 XPT sets were stabled in Taree Yard for the W/E & one in Grafton.

Owing to a Track maintenance program that started at midnight that night for the W/E the XPT's were all replace by buses, as was the Northern Xployers. DID any Freight services operate over the line on the W/E? How come in this day & age this sort of crap still goes on, especially when the CL services all 8 of them in a 24hr period would hardly affect any of the work, much less than any freight service anyway. Interesting that in the early 80's during the Hunter Valley track strengthening program from Waratah to MBK, that all freight & passenger services were able to operate over the single lines for several years, also it used to happen that Diesels pulled electrics through the times of O/head being turned off, we certainly have advanced a lot.

Having worked over the Sandgate area for around 10 years, this is the first time I have ever heard of water being over the line there & preventing trains from operating, what is the cause of this? sure there was a lot of rain but its not the first time nor the worst either, has the track work there that has taken the coal road deviations & associated work created this problem?

"a6et"


a6et,

That track work was on all lines between Islington Junction and Hanbury Junction then just the main lines up to Maitland. I seem to recall that the intermodal services were to travel via Merrygoen but most cancelled.

The water over the line issue is between Warabrook and Sandgate, and for many years I've worked in the same area (6 now), with heavy extended periods of rain, it's the first spot to go under. It's low lying next to a swamp, so it's got no chance. The dates you mention, I can assure you, all 4 lines were well and truly under. I took video of it going back to Kooragang.

Oddly enough about a week after the down pour I spoke to a fettler at Hexham who actually said even knowing it floods there often with the rain, they never have to do track work there, the line is in perfect condition and that is proven by the fact there is never any speed restrictions in that area normally or even after rain.

Regards
Tim

  a6et Minister for Railways






The whole issue was a consequence of water over the line at Sandgate on the 1st March which culminated in all XPTS on that day being cancelled, with the Casino service having no alternate bus arrangememts. The Grafton XPT terminated at BMD & the set formed a City Rail service at 2000 back to Sydney. 2 XPT sets were stabled in Taree Yard for the W/E & one in Grafton.

Owing to a Track maintenance program that started at midnight that night for the W/E the XPT's were all replace by buses, as was the Northern Xployers. DID any Freight services operate over the line on the W/E? How come in this day & age this sort of crap still goes on, especially when the CL services all 8 of them in a 24hr period would hardly affect any of the work, much less than any freight service anyway. Interesting that in the early 80's during the Hunter Valley track strengthening program from Waratah to MBK, that all freight & passenger services were able to operate over the single lines for several years, also it used to happen that Diesels pulled electrics through the times of O/head being turned off, we certainly have advanced a lot.

Having worked over the Sandgate area for around 10 years, this is the first time I have ever heard of water being over the line there & preventing trains from operating, what is the cause of this? sure there was a lot of rain but its not the first time nor the worst either, has the track work there that has taken the coal road deviations & associated work created this problem?

"a6et"


a6et,

That track work was on all lines between Islington Junction and Hanbury Junction then just the main lines up to Maitland. I seem to recall that the intermodal services were to travel via Merrygoen but most cancelled.

The water over the line issue is between Warabrook and Sandgate, and for many years I've worked in the same area (6 now), with heavy extended periods of rain, it's the first spot to go under. It's low lying next to a swamp, so it's got no chance. The dates you mention, I can assure you, all 4 lines were well and truly under. I took video of it going back to Kooragang.

Oddly enough about a week after the down pour I spoke to a fettler at Hexham who actually said even knowing it floods there often with the rain, they never have to do track work there, the line is in perfect condition and that is proven by the fact there is never any speed restrictions in that area normally or even after rain.

Regards
Tim

"Termite"


Thanks Tim.

Interesting in that in all the years I was at WCK, I never saw that area of the lines go under, even when the old saleyards & abatoirs were in the area, & no where near the drainage there is now.

Interesting re there being no speed restrictions there now, I do reccollect that the flat area in the middle of the Kooragang triangle used to have caution board there, & without doubt, it is an area that does need track & real drainage work to it.

There must have been track work on the Short north as well as there were no trains on it either.  Still a schemozzle though especially in this day & age to have to put up with it.  A reason I avoid like a plague making any arrangements that involves travelling by rail on W/E's.

  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.

The Grafton XPT terminated at BMD & the set formed a City Rail service at 2000 back to Sydney.
a6et


Serious? That would have been a nice op-up!

  a6et Minister for Railways




The Grafton XPT terminated at BMD & the set formed a City Rail service at 2000 back to Sydney.
"a6et"


Serious? That would have been a nice op-up!

"Watson374"

Quite serious, IIRC it took off around 2000.

I understand it was the Northbound XPT as the flooding was reported at around 1330, according to the info I had received, & it sat in BMD yard until called out for that service.

  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.

Quite serious, IIRC it took off around 2000.


I understand it was the Northbound XPT as the flooding was reported at around 1330, according to the info I had received, & it sat in BMD yard until called out for that service.
"a6et"



I would like to have seen that one, at least within the suburban boundaries!

  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia


Southern region - CLK624 the 08:30 Melbourne to Sydney XPT service will be delayed near Harden due to a bushfire. Delays of up to 60 minutes may be experienced.




  jtas Junior Train Controller

Location: Fassifern - NSW

27 March 2013


North Coast region - CLK33 the 07:05 Sydney to Casino XPT and CLK36 the 06:30 Grafton to Sydney XPT services have been delayed between Gloucester and Taree due to emergency trackwork. Extensive delays are expected. CLK36 was held at Taree and departed at 13:15, 125 minutes late.  CLK33 has been held at Gloucester and is expected to depart at 14:00, 150 minutes late.

  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
Spotted the 06:58 Canberra service with 2 cars and passengers on board at Eveleigh at 08:05 this morning
  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia
Southern Region - Due to operational requirements CLK635 the 18:11 Sydney to Canberra XPLORER service will be replaced by a road coach service for the entire journey.
Southern Region - Due to operational requirements CLK624 the 08:30 Melbourne to Sydney XPT service will experience delays up to 65 minutes.
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

Does anyone have info' on why 'police requirements' have resulted in the cancellation of three XPT servces to  and from the North Coast today and tomorrow?

http://www.countrylink.info/service_status/service_changes


-Craig
  sashmo Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane Qld
Word i am hearing is a level crossing fatality.

sashmo
  sashmo Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane Qld
further to what i posted before.

http://www.wauchopegazette.com.au/story/1526673/king-creek-railway-crossing-fatality/?cs=12

sashmo
  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia
Southern region - Due to freight train failed near Henty CLK623 the 07:52 Sydney to Melbourne XPT service terminated at Wagga and replaced by a road coach service from Wagga to Melbourne also CLK624 the 07.30 Melbourne to Sydney XPT service terminated at Culcairn and replaced by a road coach service between Culcairn and Wagga where passengers will join XPT service for the remainder of their journey. Delays are expected.
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

Looks like CountryLink (NSW Trainlink) are having another one of those days, according to their website. Delays and alterations all over the place.

But, I saw earlier today that the late-running overnight XPT from Casino terminated at Wyong (for the usual opaque 'operational issues'). Passengers were to transfer to 'Sydney Trains' (sic) service.

Today's morning XPT from Grafton is also running an hour plus late (for 'operational reasons'), and has also been terminated at Wyong. Passengers to transfer to NSW Trains intercity service (at least they called it a NSW Trains service this time, rather than a 'Sydney trains' service).

Is this the start of a new trend to terminate late running south-bound XPTs at Wyong? Hmmm...... it might mean something or might mean nothing at all. Just a fluke?
  sashmo Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane Qld
NT35 was reported to have hit a fishplate left on the track by some local idiots near Tamban, 3500L of fuel lost from the lead Power car Xp2016. When i saw NT36 Xp2008 was leading it at a very sedate pace.

Sashmo
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

Another day, another truncation of the north coast XPT. ('mechanical issues' this time, instead of just the normal 'operational issues'). Today's Grafton service terminated at Broadmeadow (couldn't even make it to Wyong this time!).

The usual flow-on effects, with tonight's service to Melbourne now also cancelled. I did this overnight trip a few weeks ago in a sleeper, and it was pretty good. Slept surprisingly well. But, with all the cancellations, I do feel that I dodged a bullet in having an uneventful trip. I would have demanded an instant refund if I had rocked up to Central and seen a bus waiting for me to take me down the Hume, mixing it with the B-Doubles and stopping at some roadside service station for a snack in the the freezing cold. I wonder how tonight's booked sleeping berth passengers will react. Hopefully they will get a refund without having to fight for it.
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
That's my big worry - I'm looking at doing Melbourne - Armidale return next month with the MEL - SYD legs overnight in a sleeper, but the last thing I want is to end up on a bus for any part of that trip.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
That's my big worry - I'm looking at doing Melbourne - Armidale return next month with the MEL - SYD legs overnight in a sleeper, but the last thing I want is to end up on a bus for any part of that trip.
"jb17kx"
MEL-SYD-ARM? Unless you have a strong reason to use the trains, I strongly suggest you fly it. The only good thing I can think of about doing MEL-SYD-ARM by train is the ability to have a quick bowl of noodles in Chinatown and a CBD layover during your three-hour Sydney layover.
  jdennis Junior Train Controller

MEL-SYD-ARM? Unless you have a strong reason to use the trains, I strongly suggest you fly it. The only good thing I can think of about doing MEL-SYD-ARM by train is the ability to have a quick bowl of noodles in Chinatown and a CBD layover during your three-hour Sydney layover.
"Watson374"


I can't speak for the Melbourne to Sydney leg, but the trip from Sydney to Armidale is very scenic and actually quite enjoyable. Not to mention the fact that QantasLink basically has a monopoly on the Sydney to Armidale route, making flying very expensive, especially if booked at short notice (flights one-way can be up to $250-$300).
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
I can't speak for the Melbourne to Sydney leg, but the trip from Sydney to Armidale is very scenic and actually quite enjoyable. Not to mention the fact that QantasLink basically has a monopoly on the Sydney to Armidale route, making flying very expensive, especially if booked at short notice (flights one-way can be up to $250-$300).
jdennis
That's pretty much exactly my reasoning.
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

This is a CountryLink thread on a rail fan forum.
Thus folks should not be surprised that posters might want to express a desire to travel by train over, say, bus or plane options.
You can safely assume that most of us are aware that planes go faster than trains, and sometimes at a cheaper price to boot. But, nevertheless, (without hopefully having to spell it out on a rail fan forum) some of us still prefer the train. At its best, rail travel is a wonderful way to get from A to B.

It is just such a crying shame that so often CountryLink fails to deliver the goods. Yes, it is not always their fault, but the ongoing litany of cancelled and altered services does make it a dicey affair when planning a trip and saddens the heart. A bit like barracking for the Blues in some ways.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
SYD-ARM was $79 last night before Qantas' sale ended, and yes, I realise it's scenic. This is why I suggested flying conditional to not having a very good reason to take the train.
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

The CountryLink website has an interesting little service alteration for the Griffith Xplorer services for the weekend of 31st August and 1st Sept.

Both services are to run via the Stockinbingal/Temora branch, rather than via Narrandera/Leeton etc

Anyone hankering to travel on a passenger train on this freight-only branch might be tempted to take a run.....

No idea why this is happening. Trackwork on the Narrandera/Leeton line? Trialling out  a permanent change? Other possibilities?

But, it is interesting (and good) that they have not decided (at this stage at least!!!) to simply cancel the service, which they typically do at the slightest opportunity.

http://www.nswtrainlink.info/your_journey/service_alerts

Almost tempted to see for myself.....
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
Anyone hoping for a rare ride over a freight route better have everything crossed.  Not only is this NSW's most-cancelled passenger train but to divert via a rarely-used route might be asking too much from the various powers-that-be.

On the other hand if it runs as advertised then it would be an uncommon treat.

I note that the weekend after it's already canned and replaced by road coaches Junee - Griffith - Sydney and the worm Sydney - Junee out bound only.

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