Noarlunga Line Shutdown

 
  poxbox3030 Train Controller

Location: Train Control
Thanks Ian! I wish I was still with Adelaide Metro Trains so I could provide more info lol

I am hoping to be in Adelaide for the RedHen runs in November, where ill take a few days to go around the Noarlunga/Seaford line seeing for myself what's happening. Although thanks to everyone on here posting info and pics.....makes me home sick.

I'd like to try and score a look at the new rolling stock to compare it to the Perth B series of which I also used to drive. They were just finalizing the cab layout when I left Adelaide.

Glad to see that for the moment the line is still scheduled to open to diesel services in September.

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  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Portal structures starting to be erected near Oaklands station now I also noticed they installed some lights as well at a pedestrian crossing not too far from the station.
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
Portal structures starting to be erected near Oaklands station now I also noticed they installed some lights as well at a pedestrian crossing not too far from the station.
Milkomeda
Steel overhead support structures were in place on the platforms of both Hove and Warradale on Tuesday evening when I travelled the whole line from Oaklands to Brighton Road in my electric chariot. There has been considerable progress in undergrounding new communications wiring as well. The pedestrian crossings at both stations have been opened up, had conduits installed and been resealed with new deep layers of bitumen over the tracks.
  mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

Location: recharging my myki
Now I can see why people didn't like the look of the poles. They sure are ugly!!
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Have you ever seen an electrified (overhead) line before? This is nothing compared to some of the electrified lines around the country and world
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
Especially Melbourne
  mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

Location: recharging my myki
Have you ever seen an electrified (overhead) line before? This is nothing compared to some of the electrified lines around the country and world
Milkomeda

Yes I have seen one it just seems that the poles/other stuff for the electrified rail stand out a lot more in this state then they do in Melbourne. Perhaps its the fact its never been in this state before, I don't know what.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Yes I have seen one it just seems that the poles/other stuff for the electrified rail stand out a lot more in this state then they do in Melbourne. Perhaps its the fact its never been in this state before, I don't know what.
"mclaren2007"


Might be something to do with nice galvanised steel work rather than rusty stuff!
  mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

Location: recharging my myki
Might be something to do with nice galvanised steel work rather than rusty stuff!
Pressman

That's it! The new poles don't blend in with the scenery.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

I took these 2 pictures yesterday of the portal structures near the Oaklands station

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  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
East Ave level crossing was closed today. Tamper was on the down line parked alongside the platform.
Track appears to have been layed back almost to the pedestrian crossing near the underpass dive.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Electrification update

Quite a few portal structures have been erected Noarlunga end of the underpass (It looks quite the sight for anyone on the Belair Train) and portal structures are now starting to be erected over Daws and Marion Road bridges
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Overhead Portal beams all in place on Down end of the Dive, most in place on the Up side.
Trackwork layed and ballasted between the Dive and East Ave crossing.
A Road/Rail small crane was on the down track running back and forth with a concrete bucket being used to pour Stancion footings between the Dive and East Ave.
The East Ave crossing rebuild finished with a bitumen road surface.
  Northmetro Junior Train Controller

The visual intrusion of overhead structures in cities such as Sydney and Melbourne is not an illusion - it is fact. Because these systems operate at a lower voltage, the conductors are heavier as they have to carry more current, so the structures that support them have to be heavier and/or more closely spaced as well. Adelaide will be 25kV (same as Perth & Brisbane) so structures can be lighter.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

I am hopeful we get a line reopening date in the next 2-3 weeks and its hard to believe how different this line looked in January right before the line closure with the electrical infrastructure being put in the line now.

I really hope the line reopens on time but I suspect the partial damage done to Goodwood station from construction work and the fiasco at Marion station might delay it a bit
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
How far do the wires extend between the city and Brighton now (I wonder)?  Are there many gaps?  The underpass must be almost complete by now I'm guessing.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Don

The wires have not got to Brighton Road at Hove as of last night, nor was there any support hardware. If any more stringing is done it may be the bit between Marino Rocks and South Brighton because last week that had the hardware up. I am assuming they will start from Lonsdale and work towards Adelaide.

From other reports here it seems that more support structures are appearing but it will be the nature of the beast that some critical parts will run late.

Signal sighting will also mean that some masts will have to be replaced by gantries. I note that at the down end of Hove a mast will effect the signal sighting and will need to be replaced by a gantry as has already happened at some other places. Why the masts had to be inside the signal set off I do not know?

While on signals; the access platforms will need to be fitted with safety screens before the power can be switched on.

Other tasks before switch on are, return earth bonding, bonding to structures, insulation of structures, signal IJR impedance bonds or other; still a lot of work.

What could hold up the return of Noarlunga Centre operations is signalling. A lot of conduit is going into the ground which implies lots of cables, lots of connections, lots of testing and commissioning, (lots of delays?).
I await an informed opinion on this matter.

Ian
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Are there many gaps?
don_dunstan
Adelaide to Goodwood for a start, all that section has to date is masts and portal gantries.

My guess is that the line will reopen at some point in late September to achieve a compromise between getting a good amount of work done and avoid losing face over the September reopening target (they never said at what point during September) even if it's not reopened with EMUs to Seaford as promised.

The remainder of the electrification works will need to take place as night works with service to commence some time in the middle of next year.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

I went to Noarlunga yesterday and when I said I saw wiring put up near Marino Station earlier I was partially correct but it looked to me it was just tension holding wire on the sides of the masts though and not the actual wiring that is going to be used to power the trains.

No actual proper wiring past Lonsdale has yet to be put up though but some areas north of it are in the final stages of electrification though.

From what I saw of the underpass it is complete but track laying and platform repairing needs to be done now through the Goodwood station before the line can even be reopened
  Guard Class 2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Elizabeth,South Australia
Correct me if I am wrong, but it was never stated that the line would reopen with EMU's running to Seaford.
The intention has always been to reopen the line from Adelaide to Noarlunga using the 3000 class DMU's.
The extension to Seaford and actual start of electric services has always been slated as early 2014.

Having said that, I do not believe the line between Adelaide and Noarlunga will be reopening in September.
Scuttlebutt/gossip I am hearing tells me possibly late October/early November for a line reopening.

Wink
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Wayne

if what you are hearing is true that would be a shame.

From what I can see the track is just about complete except for the down track though Goodwood but there is plenty of time left to finish that. There is enough time left to complete the Underpass. All based on early/mid September opening.

Potential hold ups would be the signalling which, if they are rejigging the whole line, seems a very late start.

The electrification would be easier (read more cost effective, cheaper) to complete without the line in traffic but that does not need to hold up the show.

As I have argued before, shutting lines down for long periods shows just how vital they are to transport in Adelaide. I recall duplication of the Marino line, no shut downs. I recall subways being built with single line working over the sections affected using Pilot Men with their orange arm band.
That's the reason why they can't use pilot men now; their arm band would get lost against their visi-vest.
Goodwood junction was rebuilt in the 60s with no shut down; and the beat goes on.

To others. I do not recall reinstatement of the NC line and electrification commencing being at the same time.

Ian
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
It has always been stated that the line will be reopened but the power not switched on when it does reopen. The only section powered up should be the Seaford to Noarlunga Centre section for testing and trial running before that opens as well. So that should mean that the track between Adelaide and Noarlunga Centre will be reopened using 3000  type railcars and later in 2014 the new section will be opened up as well hopefully by that time with electric trains, if not using 3000 type railcars for the time being. It will all depend if nothing goes wrong with the new electric trains commissioning if something bobs up it might put things out of whack for the first full electric service from Adelaide to Seaford and return. Any thing can and could happen so it is best just to wait and see rather than get your hopes up and have them dashed.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

DPTI have stated on their website the Noarlunga Line is to open by mid September I saw it in one of their Goodwood Junction upgrade notices.

Also I took this today Noarlunga end of the Goodwood Junction Underpass
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  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
DPTI have stated on their website the Noarlunga Line is to open by mid September I saw it in one of their Goodwood Junction upgrade notices.

Also I took this today Noarlunga end of the Goodwood Junction Underpass
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7876/fm0z.jpg
Milkomeda
True all being well, but they did not state with what though, try diesel electric railcars here till they get the electrics right there is bound to be one or two problems with them that will need sorting out also drivers need to be trained in handling them as well.

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