GEs and other older WAGR classes with disc wheels?

 
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

hi

i am wondering if in later years, the GEs and wagon classes of similar vintage received disc wheels instead of spoked?  i imagine it may have happened, but haven't found photographic evidence.

cheers,

ben

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  warienga Chief Train Controller

Location: Perth
hi

i am wondering if in later years, the GEs and wagon classes of similar vintage received disc wheels instead of spoked?  i imagine it may have happened, but haven't found photographic evidence.

cheers,

ben
benscaro
There's a GM wagon, a DC and 2 FD's in the Bassendean Museum with disk wheels. Some of these are not of excessive age like earlier 4 -wheeled wagons and have larger plain bearings (H brass) so could share the same type of wheelset as contemporary bogie freight vehicles. Older wagons had smaller bearings but there are definitely instances where disk weels were pressed onto axles with smaller diameter journals/bearings.

Not confined to elderly wagons either - another vehicle at Bassendean, a former Midland Railway dogbox bogie passenger car converted into a workmans van has one disk wheelset accompanying the 3 spoked sets, and the journals on these axles take A brass size bearings (7.5 x 4 inch).

cheers, Warienga
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

thanks for that.  

in relation to DC, FD and GM, i think though i'm not sure that those classes of the early fifties had disc wheels as standard.  or at least, i've not seen a photo of one with spoked wheels.

cheers, ben
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

i just had occasion to email andy may about X7732.  he confirms that to see an older wagon, that is GE era and prior to that, with disc wheels was rare.  he did however send me a shot of H1995 with disc wheels.

some K / KW wagons had disc wheels, but i think they came with them originally.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/asmay2002/kw_wagon.htm

http://www.railheritagewa.org.au/archive_scans/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pid=5617#top_display_media

(not sure the link works but search the railheritage WA site for K wagons and you'll see a couple of shots)
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

http://www.railheritagewa.org.au/archive_scans/displayimage.php?album=48&pid=9698

a GE with disc wheels.  

was a bit perplexed why the modern looking HCL (well, more modern than the GE) should have spoked wheels, but they were rebuilt on BE cattle wagon underframes and were much lighter than the HCs they were based on.

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