All Australian Tracks Courtesy of Hairyleg

 
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Hairyleg, in a few posts above I asked if you could add the old Holmview and Cleveland routes and I see you did that for us so I thank you with much appreciation as I read over on the "Light Rail" yahoogroup about your budget (zero) and similar zero available spare time http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRRSA/     Very Happy  Very Happy

Thanks again as this material is priceless!!!

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  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
I notice that the Warragul - Noojee line is shown in the wrong location at several points. The section through Buln Buln (station was where the oval is), to Crossover via Rokeby is not shown at all. Fortunately it's fairly easy to follow in the higher resolution images that have appeared in the last year or so.
The Nayook - Noojee section is also incorrect.
I think someone reported this several years ago, so this is just a reminder. Very Happy
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
I notice that the Warragul - Noojee line is shown in the wrong location at several points. The section through Buln Buln (station was where the oval is), to Crossover via Rokeby is not shown at all. Fortunately it's fairly easy to follow in the higher resolution images that have appeared in the last year or so.
The Nayook - Noojee section is also incorrect.
I think someone reported this several years ago, so this is just a reminder. Very Happy
"B 67"


I had this section stuffed-up well-and-good, but I think I have this line pretty well sorted now (for the next release). But of course, many of the other lines in the area are poor/incomplete/missing, so there is still a lot of work to do here.

Being a New-South-Welshman, I'm not at all familiar with this area, and there is very little in my collection of historic maps that cover this area. Google Earth is not the best resolution here, and much of the area is covered in trees anyway, so air photos don't help.

If anyone has any scanned maps/diagrams/sketches/plans/etc, or could find and scan some for me it would help.
  trestle_nutter Train Controller

Location: Yarra Valley
I notice that the Warragul - Noojee line is shown in the wrong location at several points. The section through Buln Buln (station was where the oval is), to Crossover via Rokeby is not shown at all. Fortunately it's fairly easy to follow in the higher resolution images that have appeared in the last year or so.
The Nayook - Noojee section is also incorrect.
I think someone reported this several years ago, so this is just a reminder. Very Happy
"B 67"


I had this section stuffed-up well-and-good, but I think I have this line pretty well sorted now (for the next release). But of course, many of the other lines in the area are poor/incomplete/missing, so there is still a lot of work to do here.

Being a New-South-Welshman, I'm not at all familiar with this area, and there is very little in my collection of historic maps that cover this area. Google Earth is not the best resolution here, and much of the area is covered in trees anyway, so air photos don't help.

If anyone has any scanned maps/diagrams/sketches/plans/etc, or could find and scan some for me it would help.
"HairyLeg"

I have attached snapshots from google  earth with the Noojee rail alignment marked with red dashes. The first 3 are from Noojee to Nayook to Neerim Junction. There were 7 major bridges in this section, including Victoria's tallest trestle bridge, which is also my profile photo - the remaining bridge is visible on google earth & I have marked it & the location of the other bridge sites with yellow dashes. The only bridge that does not have some relics on site is the road crossing.

The other 3 photos are the Crossover to Rokeby to Buln Buln section. The platform still exists at Crossover & there is a road over trestle bridge nearby.

The route is also shown on DSE's Forest Explorer interactive map. You would have to tick on the railways layer under the map base, transport folders.


http://nremap-sc.nre.vic.gov.au/MapShare.v2/imf.jsp?site=forestexplorer

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  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Good news for all.

There is another version available of my Google Earth kmz file for all tracks in Australia.
Dr Waddles has been kind enough to once again host this file on the following link:

http://www.ozroads.com.au/rail/hairyleg_aus_tracks_rev03_2012_10_24.kmz

If the above link gets cut again, try this:  http://www.ozroads.com.au/rail/hairyleg_aus_tracks_rev03_2012_10_24.kmz

While there are very few major corridor additions (because I already have most of the major corridors), you will find that there are very many minor loops, sidings, and in particular tramways that have been added. There has also been lots of additional work refining existing lines.

For example, check out the tramways of Adelaide, Kalgoorlie and Brisbane. More of the Qld North Coast deviations have been detailed, and I got carried away with some historical snapshots of Sydney Yard, not to mention the Tasmanian Tramways (thanks to the books of Lou Rae and J.G.Branagan that were kindly donated to the project).
Any time anyone has brought something up I have tried to detail it, as well as refine the other tracks in the area while I was there.

Enjoy.
(If it opens into "Temporary Places", just drag and drop it into "My Places" so that it will be there every time you open Google Earth, and remember to remove or turn off any old versions you might have, otherwise you will be seeing double).

HairyLeg
2012-10-29


  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Many thanks Hairylegs for all the hours you have spent on the work Very HappyVery Happy


Curious about the line on the steam era former Tweed Heads Coolangatta line shown heading east fromWorongary Station near the Pacific Motorway intersection with Springbrook Rd / Gooding Drive?    28° 2'58.50" 153°21'19.80"E  

Anyone here have clues please?

EDIT; had several attempts to stop the words jumbling up together and squashing the smilies. I have a line break after the smilies but Railpage refused.

Thanks
Peter
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?

Curious about the line on the steam era former Tweed Heads Coolangatta line shown heading east fromWorongary Station near the Pacific Motorway intersection with Springbrook Rd / Gooding Drive? 28 2'58.50" 15321'19.80"E
"petan"


I found this on an old 1 in 25k topo:



I don't know what it is either, but I did find this reference "Worongary had a siding and trucking yards and served the Merrimac Cheese Factory (Kerr, J.,  Destination Sth Brisbane)"
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!

Curious about the line on the steam era former Tweed Heads Coolangatta line shown heading east fromWorongary Station near the Pacific Motorway intersection with Springbrook Rd / Gooding Drive? 28 2'58.50" 15321'19.80"E
"petan"


I found this on an old 1 in 25k topo:



I don't know what it is either, but I did find this reference "Worongary had a siding and trucking yards and served the Merrimac Cheese Factory (Kerr, J., Destination Sth Brisbane)"
"HairyLeg"


Extremely interesting as that map of your shows the relationship of the rail route to the Gooding Drive overpass on the highway. That map is more recent then my 1 in 25k Mudgeeraba Military map 1966 which covers Neranwood and Nerang River pre Hinze Dam   http://www.4shared.com/photo/7K3QghnF/Mudgeeraba_Military_1966.html

Thanks for that map scan!
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!

I have not been able to discover more regarding that short line east from Worongary Station. There are a few references in trove about Merrimac Cheese Factory but none regarding rail so I will not go off topic this time. Those interested will no doubt do a trove check themselves.

The following non rail URL may be of use to other curious souls http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/thegoldcoast/merrimac-history-2650.html  

Cheers
Peter
 





 

  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Checked Worongary Station area yesterday as noted on the map Hairyleg supplied last week. We were walking through the bush there admiring the various embankments using that map so thanks again for that scanning! Using various clues from other documents as noted on the Coolangatta thread, we suspect the railway station site is approx now the new ambulance site.

We were in Ernest Junction tunnel Yesterday. Access is still possible from both ends as we walked the full tunnel. Tunnel floor clear and dry although we are in a dry weather spell.

The following book page 206 notes the Merrimac Cheese Factory became the Merrimac Milk Factory in 1936 and burnt down in 1957. That maybe is of use for anyone researching this topic and notices both dairy operations mentioned. Nerang shire : a history to 1949 / written by Robert Longhurst.   http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/35698616?q=Nerang+1949&c=book&versionId=46643369 a
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!

The following book page 206 notes the Merrimac Cheese Factory became the Merrimac Milk Factory in 1936 and burnt down in 1957. That maybe is of use for anyone researching this topic and notices both dairy operations mentioned. Nerang shire : a history to 1949 / written by Robert Longhurst. http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/35698616?q=Nerang+1949&c=book&versionId=46643369 a
"petan"


Found another local history book in the council library so checked it for any mention of this Worongary line to the east of the present day Paific motorway. No good news there I am afraid. Pasteurised milk from the Merrimac factory for the Brisbane market was transported to Worongary Station in glass lined containers transported in horse drawn wagons. Later the chilled milk was transported direct to Brisbane by trucks on the highway. The Merrimac Milk Factory, established in 1936, was previously the Merrimac Cheese Factory. After the building was burnt down in 1957, the milk was processed by the South Coast Co-operative Dairy Association in Southport. [Burrows, Robyn Lee “From Paddocks To Pavements: The Mudgeeraba Story” Published 2012.  P.78/79] [Longhurst, Robert  “Nerang Shire : a history to 1949: Albert Shire Council,1994. P.206]


If they used horse drawn wagons to Worongary or road transport direct to Brisbane then they did not use the tramway. Something will eventually be found regarding this Merrimac line as the tramway was on the map thus built for a commercial purpose that involved spending money as a line that long would have cost $$$$.

  Laidback Station Master


It certainly looks like it follows the route of the old Carrara road as per the working plan -


SCL N-C s4 Worongary.jpg




  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Hi Hairylegs,
Once again fantastic work. This is absolutely gold, particularly on a iPad on the road.

Earlier in the thread understandably the details of yards etc are too numerous to complete and however some information on triangles/wyes were supplied.

Are you interested income details. On the Beenleigh Line in Brissie there were two 'angles not picked up.

One was at Kuraby and was removed at the end of diesel suburban services. It relatively easy to work out as this was in more recent history.

There was an 'angle at Sunnybank that was removed in the 60s. It is harder to work out. It went north of Dixon street and there is a large vacant property that approximately it went. I have seen old maps showing this, but unfortunately I don't have these anymore.

Minor additions is that at the North east of Runcorn station there is a bradken factory that had a siding until the 90s. It supplied via rail wagons of wheels and bogies for QR.

Finally in my now neck of the woods the Finch Hatton line actually went all the way to Netherdale.

Do you info on these bits?

Thank you for the excellent work.

Cheers

Jas
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I noticed today we have the current? version of Hairy Legs Australian Tracks online for download at: http://www.railpage.com.au/downloads/cat-10/sub-21/
Is this still the latest version of the package?  Will there be a future update coming?

Regards
Brian
  jayrail Assistant Commissioner

Location: te Anau Southern Alps NZ
Hi Hairylegs,have you undertaken any of NZ rails historic tracks;many ghost rails here  and could be  interested  locals .
Follow your NSW AND WA regins overlays.
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Hi Hairylegs,have you undertaken any of NZ rails historic tracks;many ghost rails here and could be interested locals .
Follow your NSW AND WA regins overlays.
jayrail

No, but that that question has been raised before by a colleague.
I have all the maps ....
  jayrail Assistant Commissioner

Location: te Anau Southern Alps NZ
No, but that that question has been raised before by a colleague.
I have all the maps ....
HairyLeg

do you have maps of Otago/Southland rails,former and current ?
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Here's a dead easy one to add, no research needed..

There is a still existing 3 foot gauge haulageway beside the McKay Creek hydro power station penstock.

In Google Earth just search for the town of Falls Creek in the Victorian high country. Exactly 4 km directly west of the red dot indicating the town you will see the penstock pipeline, just add the dead straight 1.7 km long tram haulage which goes down it on the western side.

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If you have lots of time there was a dense network of timber tramways and haulages (including at least one funicular) on Mt Donna Buang, just north of Warburton in Victoria. The LRRSA published a large book on Warburton tramways around the turn of the century (written by McCarthy) and there are lots of maps of the routes in there.

Extract from McCarthy book showing tram lines on Donna.

Map from this website. http://bpadula.tripod.com/warburtonforests/id20.html
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Here's a dead easy one to add, no research needed..

Map from this website. http://bpadula.tripod.com/warburtonforests/id20.html
Bogong



Dead easy if you know where to look. Thanks for that. Found it, and it will be included in the next update (coming soon .... ).

Yes, of course I'm interested in the tramwaya around Mt Donna Buang, but I don't have access to that book.
I georeferenced the map you provided and mapped the tramways shown but I can go no further.
Does anyone have maps of this area showing these tramways that they can scan and send me. Let me know via PM if you want.
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
I noticed today we have the current? version of Hairy Legs Australian Tracks online for download at: http://www.railpage.com.au/downloads/cat-10/sub-21/
Is this still the latest version of the package? Will there be a future update coming?

Regards
Brian
bevans

I have an update ready to go, just trying to get it uploaded.
I might need some help.

Hairyleg
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I have an update ready to go, just trying to get it uploaded.
I might need some help.

Hairyleg
HairyLeg


OK. let's see how you go.

Regards
Brian
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The new file has been uploaded to the files database and can be found at: http://www.railpage.com.au/downloads/cat-10/sub-21/ being the last file in the list.

Regards
Brian
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
The new file has been uploaded to the files database and can be found at: http://www.railpage.com.au/downloads/cat-10/sub-21/ being the last file in the list.

Regards
Brian
bevans

Brian, please recheck as that URL does not give anything except a 0 downloads available message yet I can see the number of downloads of that file increasing fast at http://www.railpage.com.au/downloads
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Brian, please recheck as that URL does not give anything except a 0 downloads available message yet I can see the number of downloads of that file increasing fast at http://www.railpage.com.au/downloads
petan


Please provide a little more detail.  Currently howing 34 downloads since being uploaded.

Regards
Brian
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Two of those attempted downloads would be from me. I clicked on it and nothing happened.

(I'm running Windows 7 and using the Chrome browser.)

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