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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia


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  hot-axle-box Junior Train Controller

That kind of thing doesn't surprise me, Mornington line was closed by a Liberal Gov, The land was sold off in parcels by a real estate Mob

Mmmmmmm........What was their names...........Mmmmm........Bailleu, Knight, Frank !    Mornington has been a Lib seat for years, even right down to
councillors of the local council who had their snouts in the trough  as well. A railway should have been closed for at least 50 years before the land is even considered for sale.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Is there anything around the state that might be considered attractive enough to sell off to developers?  A lot of easements like the Outer Circle line ended up as parks.  Even the Rosstown Railway (which I rode along a few months ago) is still there in places albeit significant housing has been built; there's probably former industrial lines around Melbourne that might be attractive to developers but I can't think of where they might be.

I'm aware of easements that have been permanently loaned to adjacent farmers.  There was a push in the Wimmera some years ago to convert the old Balmoral line easement to a rail-trail for the sake of tourism but local farmers screamed blue murder until the plan was dropped.  They didn't want to give the land back they'd been using for 30 years and they certainly didn't want cyclists and walkers ambling past their properties.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Ballarat goods yard. The yuppies have been after that for their chicken-coup flats for years.

Problem is, they don't seem to comprehend that you're still going to have loaded wheat trains roar through in the middle of the night.
  AlanGreenhill Beginner

Ballarat goods yard. The yuppies have been after that for their chicken-coup flats for years.

Problem is, they don't seem to comprehend that you're still going to have loaded wheat trains roar through in the middle of the night.
Barrington Womble
Or that commuters need a place to park their cars...
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
If the Ballarat Goods Yard was converted to a car-park, which is probably not a bad use of it, that wouldn't involve a private sale to a third party though? Not unless they wanted it to sell it to a private operator (I suppose).  I'm still wondering where the excess Crown land might be that can be easily sold off -
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

Possibly some of the land within the Dynon area. There are plans to develop the E Gate area to housing I believe.
  Simbera Train Controller

The idea of selling off the Ballarat Goods Yards has been raised with the Ballarat Station Precinct redevelopment thingy they're doing at the moment.  They've just done community consultation, and as they were asking for submissions some Liberal crony said it would be a good idea to sell it off to commercial developers.

With a Liberal state government and a fairly developer-friendly council I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of it being sold off. Hopefully it isn't, though, because it's prime land that will be needed as public transport in Ballarat grows.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
ab123: Dynon yards is a no-brainer, it's been discussed for years and the next logical step after getting rid of the Spencer Street yards.  I'm not sure about reclaiming it for housing though, there's a chance it could be contaminated with mercury or lead being an ex industrial site?  Are there any other locations you can think of that might be that easy?

Simbera: As for Ballarat yards, it would be very short sighted (but not surprising) if they sold that parcel off to private developers - it's in a very desirable part of the city and would make ideal medium density.  A car park, while being an ugly blight, is probably needed for day commuters - I'm guessing there's a lot of these and they don't seem to have anywhere in the city where they can park all day easily?

I mentioned Rail Trails before, it's a shame there's not more of these being developed across the state as the one that goes from Tallarook to Mansfield (and Alexandra) is obviously a huge tourist draw-card for the region; there's a site specifically for the trail here and it seems the trail itself is obviously well patronised.  The western side of the Grampians badly needs more tourist attractions and it's a shame that the Balmoral line can't be used for that purpose; there's lots of other ex-rail lines that have successfully made the conversion.  Selling the easement off is the last thing they should be thinking about (but given the need to raise billions for our East-West truck sewer it's probably inevitable).
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
ab123: Dynon yards is a no-brainer, it's been discussed for years and the next logical step after getting rid of the Spencer Street yards.  I'm not sure about reclaiming it for housing though, there's a chance it could be contaminated with mercury or lead being an ex industrial site?  Are there any other locations you can think of that might be that easy?
don_dunstan
Contamination did not stop them developing the Flinders Street yards. The area was seriously contaminated with asbestos from the many years of changing brake blocks on the red rattlers. So they simply bulldozed it all into a hill and called it Birrarung Marr.
  ab123 Chief Train Controller
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
I'm aware of easements that have been permanently loaned to adjacent farmers.  There was a push in the Wimmera some years ago to convert the old Balmoral line easement to a rail-trail for the sake of tourism but local farmers screamed blue murder until the plan was dropped.  They didn't want to give the land back they'd been using for 30 years and they certainly didn't want cyclists and walkers ambling past their properties.
don_dunstan
A narrow strip of land is hardly of any use to a farmer. What can you use it for? The years of weed control, ballast and such means it does not grow anything of use.

They do however, appreciate the fact that they can now cross stock over the old ROW unhindered.

And they really don't care about cyclists and walkers ambling past their properties, but they do object to them cutting across their paddocks, taking off into the land and leaving gates open. Something they did not have to worry about with railway use. City people don't have a clue about the etiquette of wandering in the bush.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
http://www.majorprojects.vic.gov.au/our-projects/our-current-projects/e-gate

Plans for housing along with retail etc.
ab123

Okay, thanks for that.  Really, ten thousand residents in that small area?  Just what Melbourne needs, more high density.

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