Location: University of Adelaide SA
My CC has been hit for both ANs and GT46s...
Auscision Models Blog
Aaron
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: University of Adelaide SA
anzac1959
Chief Commissioner
ANs leaving China this week apparently ,I asked and was told. I don't know about the others as im not getting anything else.
Btone
Locomotive Fireman
My CC has been hit for both ANs and GT46s...Has this happened to anyone else? I haven't put in my pre-order yet as I was waiting on the painted samples to come out and I'd thought we'd be waiting till next year honestly before we saw them.
2LaGrange
Train Controller
Has this happened to anyone else? I haven't put in my pre-order yet as I was waiting on the painted samples to come out and I'd thought we'd be waiting till next year honestly before we saw them.
Painted samples of the ANs have been around for quite some time and I was told they will arrive late september.As for getting your card debited for GT46s or C44s that would only be because you have ordered the locos.If you pay a deposit on these locos it is $80.00 and the balance owed next year when they arrive with the Price being $295.00.If you pay in full up front the cost is $250.00 per loco a saving of $45.00.I pre ordered and paid in full for mine recently and was told they will not get any more product out of their factory this year,the last three products this year being the AN locos, a rerun on 20/40 ft containers and Batwing Coal Hoppers.So it looks like next year will be another big year for Auscision with at least 2 maybe 3 or even 4 locos next year (GT46,C44,45 class and 46 class) as well as XPT,WBAX vans and possibly Aurora and Rub cars,plus maybe some un-announced models ? who knows.
Btone
Locomotive Fireman
Painted samples of the ANs have been around for quite some time and I was told they will arrive late september.As for getting your card debited for GT46s or C44s that would only be because you have ordered the locos.If you pay a deposit on these locos it is $80.00 and the balance owed next year when they arrive with the Price being $295.00.If you pay in full up front the cost is $250.00 per loco a saving of $45.00.I pre ordered and paid in full for mine recently and was told they will not get any more product out of their factory this year,the last three products this year being the AN locos, a rerun on 20/40 ft containers and Batwing Coal Hoppers.So it looks like next year will be another big year for Auscision with at least 2 maybe 3 or even 4 locos next year (GT46,C44,45 class and 46 class) as well as XPT,WBAX vans and possibly Aurora and Rub cars,plus maybe some un-announced models ? who knows.Ah, should have clarified I meant just for the GT46's, already paid for my AN's my bad
I didn't realize they were still using the deposit model for the current order forms, I thought they had just switched over to pre-orders only but I must have confused that with a different manufacturer. Still that it is good news about the container re-run, and everything coming out next year means I might actually have a chance to save for some of it. Thanks for the info!
meh
Chief Commissioner
Location: Sydney
The guys just added a new photo to Facebook.
Next model is the NSW V set.
Photo is of the prototype only. Not much info yet.
Next model is the NSW V set.
Photo is of the prototype only. Not much info yet.
Poath Junction
Chief Commissioner
Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Reposted for those who fear facebook.
5711
Assistant Commissioner
I just passed out.
this is great news......been number one on my list for years.
And with the 86/46 class release next year i'm filing for bankruptcy.
oodles of version do here.....
Me thinks the 'blue goose' version will be a sell out.
this is great news......been number one on my list for years.
And with the 86/46 class release next year i'm filing for bankruptcy.
oodles of version do here.....
Me thinks the 'blue goose' version will be a sell out.
brissim
Chief Train Controller
Certainly pleased with their apparent decision to do the V-sets. I can only hope the models will be in better running order than the photo suggests.
Tony
Tony
Thumpa
Chief Train Controller
Location: That's on a need to know basis.
I was more surprised Peter was awake before 7AM to post the announcement on Facebook this morning. 
Poath Junction
Chief Commissioner
Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Certainly pleased with their apparent decision to do the V-sets. I can only hope the models will be in better running order than the photo suggests.
Tony
Blog updated with V set. Perhaps the picture represents how close the project is to completion
What's the bet the V sets will be the first RTR model with the new Sydney Trains livery.
Image Courtesy Chris Williams
lkernan
Deputy Commissioner
Location: Melbourne
Hopefully they'll follow up in the not too distant future with something else electric for us Mexicans, a 3 car Comeng set would be really nice.
frosty
Junior Train Controller
I was more surprised Peter was awake before 7AM to post the announcement on Facebook this morning.
Probably had not been to sleep yet!
kingfisher
Chief Train Controller
Probably had not been to sleep yet!
And he was emailing out tax invoices at 2am this morning.
5711
Assistant Commissioner
There are plenty of versions to roll out.
I'm curious - by the way that Pete has typed his blog I am sensing that they might be going for a long term theme here....
Sydney Electrics really are the last untapped resource ( no offence to WA/SA/QLD etc ) and that leaves the path clear for S/R/G/K sets. I'm in for a complete Sydney sparky layout!!!
Kudos for Auscision for taking the leap.
Who knows by the end of the next 5 years we might just have it all - lucky us!!!
I'm curious - by the way that Pete has typed his blog I am sensing that they might be going for a long term theme here....
Sydney Electrics really are the last untapped resource ( no offence to WA/SA/QLD etc ) and that leaves the path clear for S/R/G/K sets. I'm in for a complete Sydney sparky layout!!!
Kudos for Auscision for taking the leap.
Who knows by the end of the next 5 years we might just have it all - lucky us!!!
Poath Junction
Chief Commissioner
Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
The single pack quarry hoppers can now be ordered online http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/JQF%20Hopper.htm - only 8 of the large VR ones are left so no procrastinating if you want one.
davesvline
Chief Commissioner
Location: 1983-1998
Thanks for that Poath
I was going to order one of the single V/Line Freight VHDX (pack VHW-23).
Until i realised they'd stuffed up the discharge chutes. They're not the same as the prototype photo on their website, or their model (VHW-9) its based it on
.
Was this a case of we had a number of grey sand hoppers left, so we'll not put the roof on, code it as VHDX, and hope no one picks us up on it? Who checks these things?
A pity, they're magnificent models. I like to trust them for precision.........
Regards
I was going to order one of the single V/Line Freight VHDX (pack VHW-23).
Until i realised they'd stuffed up the discharge chutes. They're not the same as the prototype photo on their website, or their model (VHW-9) its based it on
. Was this a case of we had a number of grey sand hoppers left, so we'll not put the roof on, code it as VHDX, and hope no one picks us up on it? Who checks these things?
A pity, they're magnificent models. I like to trust them for precision.........
Regards
gw0071
Deputy Commissioner
Great news on the V Sets
Wonder if they'll add the Freightliner livery to the CF's?
Wonder if they'll add the Freightliner livery to the CF's?
Newcastle Express
Chief Commissioner
For those that are interested, I have just been made aware that the V-Sets will not have interiors, and will just be empty shells on wheels.
Checking the Auscision's website they have this on their website:
“Trust Auscision for precision’ – we pride ourselves on attention to detail”
Detail to us would mean including the interiors on passenger carriages, and as accurate as possible.
The claim is that interiors will cost an extra $150 per set. (Edit: Just checked the price of their XPT, and what??). Funny then, how I've just searched, and other suppliers that have Australian trains, and with one or two exceptions, all have interiors included, for roughly the same price. Also interesting how another company, while not 100% correct, sells interiors for less than $10 per carriage retail (under $40 for a four car set).
The other claim is that you can't see inside of their models that don't have interiors.
Checking the Auscision's website they have this on their website:
“Trust Auscision for precision’ – we pride ourselves on attention to detail”
Detail to us would mean including the interiors on passenger carriages, and as accurate as possible.
The claim is that interiors will cost an extra $150 per set. (Edit: Just checked the price of their XPT, and what??). Funny then, how I've just searched, and other suppliers that have Australian trains, and with one or two exceptions, all have interiors included, for roughly the same price. Also interesting how another company, while not 100% correct, sells interiors for less than $10 per carriage retail (under $40 for a four car set).
The other claim is that you can't see inside of their models that don't have interiors.
meh
Chief Commissioner
Location: Sydney
I also made this inquiry about the XPT, as it was my deciding factor between getting one or an xplorer set from southern rail. Auscision's response was no interiors because of the tinted windows; however that orange tint was only on the cars up until the mid 2000s and even then the photos I've seen of the tinted cars clearly shows the interior. I think it's a huge disappointment not to include them, especially when, as mentioned, they are a simple casting and wouldn't add much to the cost. Interior lighting is a different story, and the high cost may be associated with this, but $150/car seems a bit rich. That's basically half the cost of a loco.
Anyway I've made my decision and will be going for a southern rail xplorer.
Anyway I've made my decision and will be going for a southern rail xplorer.
Newcastle Express
Chief Commissioner
Meh, for $895 for a 7 car XPT, you'd expect to come with interiors.
Hornby (& others) I see produce passenger cars with interiors, and can be under $100 per carriage.
For a four car train set with a power car/loco but no interior, we don't think you should expect to pay over $50 for the three carriages, plus about say $200 for the power car/loco, so around $350 to $400 - especially for items that are made in China, and possibly the same factory that Hornby uses.
You can get a Hornby 1st class carriage for around $60 - with interiors.
Hornby (& others) I see produce passenger cars with interiors, and can be under $100 per carriage.
For a four car train set with a power car/loco but no interior, we don't think you should expect to pay over $50 for the three carriages, plus about say $200 for the power car/loco, so around $350 to $400 - especially for items that are made in China, and possibly the same factory that Hornby uses.
You can get a Hornby 1st class carriage for around $60 - with interiors.
kingfisher
Chief Train Controller
Meh, for $895 for a 7 car XPT, you'd expect to come with interiors.
Hornby (& others) I see produce passenger cars with interiors, and can be under $100 per carriage.
For a four car train set with a power car/loco but no interior, we don't think you should expect to pay over $50 for the three carriages, plus about say $200 for the power car/loco, so around $350 to $400 - especially for items that are made in China, and possibly the same factory that Hornby uses.
You can get a Hornby 1st class carriage for around $60 - with interiors.
So you have never heard of
''economies of scale"
Roachie
Chief Commissioner
Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
I don't profess to know diddly-squat about what the interiors of an XPT carriage set would look like or what particular carriages go to making-up an XPT train.
One thing I reckon you can be reasonably sure of, however, is that each different type of carriage would require a different seating arrangement to the others.
Therefore, it wouldn't be possible to just make up "a casting" of the seats and plonk the same one into each carriage......well I'm wrong of course....it would be POSSIBLE to do so, but can you even begin to imagine the amount of bleating that would emanate from the keyboards of the arm-chair experts who would ever-so-quickly point out that car "XYZ" has one too many seats facing forwards or that Auscision failed because they didn't add the little piece of snot to the back of the seat in the 3rd row that a kid had deposited there on the 16th July 1987 on a trip from Melbourne to Sydney etc etc.
If my attempt at humour and levity has eluded you at this point, let me try to be a little more subtle:
There is simply NO PLEASING some folks, so rather than actually produce a reasonable (to any "normal" modeller) type of basic interior to go inside each of the carriages, Auscision have obviously decided to just avoid the issue altogether and not have any interiors.
No doubt a lot of less-fussy modellers will simply buy and install a proprietory set of seats, maybe slap on a bit of colour and slot 'em into the carriage where a viewer "may" catch a quick glimpse of the said seats as the train whizzes by at 100kph+.
I won't be needing an XPT set, so it doesn't bother me. I'm still running my old Lima and Trax carriages with no interiors (save for some additional lead weights) and nobody who has ever glimpsed my train (which passes by at a much more modest 30 to 50 mph) has ever had the audacity or bad-manners to say/laugh to me: "hahaha....some mongrel has stolen all the seats out of your carriages". If they did, they'd quickly be asked to be careful that the door doesn't hit 'em up the clacker as they leave.
Sheesh!!!!
Roachie
One thing I reckon you can be reasonably sure of, however, is that each different type of carriage would require a different seating arrangement to the others.
Therefore, it wouldn't be possible to just make up "a casting" of the seats and plonk the same one into each carriage......well I'm wrong of course....it would be POSSIBLE to do so, but can you even begin to imagine the amount of bleating that would emanate from the keyboards of the arm-chair experts who would ever-so-quickly point out that car "XYZ" has one too many seats facing forwards or that Auscision failed because they didn't add the little piece of snot to the back of the seat in the 3rd row that a kid had deposited there on the 16th July 1987 on a trip from Melbourne to Sydney etc etc.
If my attempt at humour and levity has eluded you at this point, let me try to be a little more subtle:
There is simply NO PLEASING some folks, so rather than actually produce a reasonable (to any "normal" modeller) type of basic interior to go inside each of the carriages, Auscision have obviously decided to just avoid the issue altogether and not have any interiors.
No doubt a lot of less-fussy modellers will simply buy and install a proprietory set of seats, maybe slap on a bit of colour and slot 'em into the carriage where a viewer "may" catch a quick glimpse of the said seats as the train whizzes by at 100kph+.
I won't be needing an XPT set, so it doesn't bother me. I'm still running my old Lima and Trax carriages with no interiors (save for some additional lead weights) and nobody who has ever glimpsed my train (which passes by at a much more modest 30 to 50 mph) has ever had the audacity or bad-manners to say/laugh to me: "hahaha....some mongrel has stolen all the seats out of your carriages". If they did, they'd quickly be asked to be careful that the door doesn't hit 'em up the clacker as they leave.
Sheesh!!!!
Roachie
Roachie
Chief Commissioner
Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
I should have added that my thoughts are that at least they (Auscision) have been up front about the lack of interior.....so you, my dear fellow modeller, have the ultimate last word on the matter, by keeping your card/cash in your wallet. If anybody tries to "force" you into buying an XPT set with no seating, might I suggest you grab your phone, dial 000 and report an extortion attempt!!!
This is in stark contrast to their 73 class and its lack of DCC readiness, which they had apparently advertised as being DCC ready. To me, THAT was almost unforgivable.....if I'd have pre-paid for a 73 believing it was going to be DCC ready, only to get it and find that it wasn't, I'd not have been a happy chappy!
Roachie
This is in stark contrast to their 73 class and its lack of DCC readiness, which they had apparently advertised as being DCC ready. To me, THAT was almost unforgivable.....if I'd have pre-paid for a 73 believing it was going to be DCC ready, only to get it and find that it wasn't, I'd not have been a happy chappy!
Roachie
Poath Junction
Chief Commissioner
Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
For those that are interested, I have just been made aware that the V-Sets will not have interiors, and will just be empty shells on wheels.Can you clarify the source of your information for this and other statements in your post. ie did you enquire direct to Auscision and get a direct response, or is the information via a third party.
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