Deadlines and Deadlines- how long is a piece of string? And how they can confuse us?

 
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

Well 8 does come after 2 does it not.  Someone not me mentioned that 2 years was the time limit or something but in actual fact some have waited nearly 8 years for the models and some are still waiting for some to come out.

Yes asking for a refund is there, but if someone in your family needs the money immediately for medical expenses etc or similar you will have to wait a bit for it all to be sorted out. I would rather myself like to pay for it when it comes in, then if little Johnny breaks his leg or something you simply use the money for that loco to pay for little Johnnys medical expenses. A lot of things can happen in your life in 8 years, some have even died waiting for their models to come in. We are not all 20 year olds you know.
David Peters

Bottom line is that the money was never lost and it was a totally ridiculous statement as I previously said.

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  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
If your finances are that tight that a preordered model is going to be a detriment to health access I'd suggest considering a less expensive hobby, or not preordering.
Aaron
I tend to agree here, hobbies should not come before anything for one's family, also the reason I have private health cover... (And no doubt that'll begin a different argument somewhere with someone else! Laughing )

Yes, if you've had to give up work because you need to full-time care for someone, fair enough I suppose, you'd need every cent you can get your hands on until (or IF) government assistance was to come flowing in.

Wolfpac
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Bottom line is that the money was never lost and it was a totally ridiculous statement as I previously said.
kingfisher
Exactly right, you know where the money is, the company knows where the money is and with proof of purchase/appropriate paperwork, you can recall said money at any time.

And begin circular conversation....... Now. Laughing

Wolfpac
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
And re-reading the thread title reminded me of a certain movie title: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the "Model Railway"... SmileLaughingSmile



http://youtu.be/ww7WlSPi9gc

Wolfpac
  foxdemon Train Controller

runawaytrain: Yes, us modellers don’t like to be taken as fools but it is scary that our own hard earned cash is being used by manufacturers to in some extent fund some lavish lifestyles

And where is your evidence of this? Mention this to the face of any producer of models in this country and they would laugh out loud.

TheBlacksmith


Which are you asking evidence for, that manufacturers live lavish lifestyles or that modellers work hard to earn their money?
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Which are you asking evidence for, that manufacturers live lavish lifestyles or that modellers work hard to earn their money?
foxdemon

Lavish lifestyles.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I have to admit the lavish lifestyles is a bit much. I doubt anyone could make a full time living from model railways and live like a king or something. Some I take it are just doing it to help us out and raise a bit of money to continue future production and continue helping us out. The models have to be made and paid for from the factory. I doubt the factory would take IOU's, promissory notes or something.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I tend to agree here, hobbies should not come before anything for one's family, also the reason I have private health cover... (And no doubt that'll begin a different argument somewhere with someone else! Laughing )

Yes, if you've had to give up work because you need to full-time care for someone, fair enough I suppose, you'd need every cent you can get your hands on until (or IF) government assistance was to come flowing in.

Wolfpac
wolfpac
My finances and a lot of my friends finances are that tight though, but if you have kids anything can suddenly pop up that you have not budgeted for or allowed yourself a bit of leeway. I have several friends that this has happened to suddenly right out of the blue. One friends kid got hit by a car and they needed not only medical care but had to come to Adelaide and lease a unit for several months while their young child recuperated, they lived in the country. They could not wait to get money back in that instance, it was needed straight away almost. At least to lease the unit for several months.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
My finances and a lot of my friends finances are that tight though, but if you have kids anything can suddenly pop up that you have not budgeted for or allowed yourself a bit of leeway. I have several friends that this has happened to suddenly right out of the blue. One friends kid got hit by a car and they needed not only medical care but had to come to Adelaide and lease a unit for several months while their young child recuperated, they lived in the country. They could not wait to get money back in that instance, it was needed straight away almost. At least to lease the unit for several months.
David Peters
Times are getting harder lately (especially with essential services bills going astronomical lately - last gas bill hurt, glad I pay it fortnightly! Shocked )

And that would've been very hard, and private health cover only goes so far. (Unlikely that accommodation would be covered, although I think some of the higher policies may cover/subsidise it to a point)

I suppose you would be looking to pull every cent back in, no matter what. I'm sure the money would be back on its way being returned reasonably quickly, considering the circumstances.

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  miktrain Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide SA
Finally I have got you, yes I was there actually. There were a few of us at the time talking about this and that and it came up. Twisted Evil
David Peters
I would guess most likely that it came from one of your group rather than from a member of the public who would most probably not know of the model in the first place unless they were in the hobby.

Tony
  miktrain Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide SA
My finances and a lot of my friends finances are that tight though, but if you have kids anything can suddenly pop up that you have not budgeted for or allowed yourself a bit of leeway. I have several friends that this has happened to suddenly right out of the blue. One friends kid got hit by a car and they needed not only medical care but had to come to Adelaide and lease a unit for several months while their young child recuperated, they lived in the country.
David Peters
And if the manufacturer had produced the model and delivered on time you still would not have access to the money, or very little of it after you sold the second-hand worn out item.

Tony
  mynameismike Deputy Commissioner

Location: /dev/adelaide/magill
As long as it turns up in the end, who gives a dam.

Its also quite an interesting game trying to work out when you per-ordered something if you have forgotten about it when the model arrives.

At the end of the day caveat emptor.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I can relate to that. I was mailed three VR Y classes, swore I only ordered two, checked receipts, yup I ordered and paid for three... Don't know how I managed that!
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
There's a pleasant surprise! lol

And that's it, mynameismike, at the end of the day, they'll turn up, and if there's a deposit on it, then there's less to find when they ask for payment to be made.

Wolfpac

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