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      Myrtone Chief Commissioner

    Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
    Cost. The cost of moving the prowl and extending the fencing pales in insignificance compared to the cost of building platforms. At a guess all safety zone stops on the 57 could be extended for about the same cost as building one level boarding stop.
    Scrat
    Right, it might be cheaper in the short term, what about in the long term? Whether the stops are lengthend or not, they are still going to need to be rebulit as platform stops. Woludn't it be cheaper (in the long term) just to rebuild the stops than lengthen them and later rebuild them?
    Posted: 03 Sep 2013 01:12

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      scrat Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Fitzroy North
    Right, it might be cheaper in the short term, what about in the long term? Whether the stops are lengthend or not, they are still going to need to be rebulit as platform stops. Woludn't it be cheaper (in the long term) just to rebuild the stops than lengthen them and later rebuild them?
    Myrtone
    In the grand scheme? Inconsequential, and the issue is about what one can do with a limited budget. There isn't money flowing from trees for the tram system, and if a very cheap solution can be found for overcrowding, and enabling Bs to run, I say do it. The alternative is to wait the years until the line has platform stops installed throughout North Melbourne. Why wait when a cheap option can be done now?

    Liam.
    Posted: 03 Sep 2013 01:32
      msilsby Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Canberra
    What about modifying the trams so that the two sets of double doors can be opened independently of the front door?

    Currently, there is a switch for 'all doors' and 'front doors'. What about making the switch a three way affair for 'front door', 'other doors' and 'all doors'?

    If a B was in a stop that was to short for all doors, might this not be a solution? The result would be the tram having an overhang at both ends of the stop, thus 'protecting' the stop, with the middle doors open for boarding and disembarking.


    Who knows, it might even start to encourage passengers to use the double doors over the single front door?
    Posted: 03 Sep 2013 12:14
      scrat Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Fitzroy North
    What about modifying the trams so that the two sets of double doors can be opened independently of the front door?

    Currently, there is a switch for 'all doors' and 'front doors'. What about making the switch a three way affair for 'front door', 'other doors' and 'all doors'?

    If a B was in a stop that was to short for all doors, might this not be a solution? The result would be the tram having an overhang at both ends of the stop, thus 'protecting' the stop, with the middle doors open for boarding and disembarking.


    Who knows, it might even start to encourage passengers to use the double doors over the single front door?
    msilsby
    That could have limited application and was the thinking behind bunching the doors on the Es. The problem is that to overhang the front would mean poking 5-10metres into the intersection, this wouldn't be ideal, and in many situations would completely block off the pedestrian crossing. It's really not that hard to get a truck with a winch and move all the prowls back a few metres.

    Liam.
    Posted: 03 Sep 2013 23:53
      route14 Chief Commissioner

    In this case if the passenger chooses to alight via the rear door h/she just alights onto the road surface, there isn't really any immediate danger in doing so.
    Posted: 06 Sep 2013 13:48
      X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Melbourne
    I wonder when they're going to start running B2s on route 57. I've seen some overcrowded Z3s there.
    mattylovestrains
    yea with school kids in grade 4 5 6 From the school nearby
    Posted: 06 Sep 2013 15:19
      route14 Chief Commissioner

    Z class suits school runs alright.  They only crowd a few services.
    Posted: 10 Sep 2013 17:11
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    Z3.184 is running on route 19.
    Posted: 10 Sep 2013 18:01
      Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner

    Location: FL390
    D 3535 currently running on the route 96.
    Posted: 16 Sep 2013 17:08
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    D 3535 currently running on the route 96.
    "Polar Tiger"

    Today there was a D1 on the D2 route and a D2 on the D1 route - D2.5013 ran on route 6 in the morning and 16 later in the day. I noticed 4013 has now been at Malvern for a week. (I'm hoping it's permanent because I love D2s and 16 is my most used route)
    Posted: 16 Sep 2013 19:46
      Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner

    Location: FL390
    D 5001 is in service on the route 19, had paper route numbers stuck to the windscreen!
    Posted: 17 Sep 2013 17:24
      Chrono Detector Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Tram 57/59
    ^^ Yeah I saw that tram today, I would have thought that all D trams have all the destinations programmed into them.
    Posted: 18 Sep 2013 20:28
      Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
    Today saw D2 5003 running route 57A to Showgrounds via Haymarket.
    Posted: 24 Sep 2013 19:57
      route14 Chief Commissioner

    ^^ Yeah I saw that tram today, I would have thought that all D trams have all the destinations programmed into them.
    Chrono Detector

    Only Malvern and Southbank routes, plus some destinations for special events.  I once took home a destination sheet that had fallen on the tram floor.
    Posted: 25 Sep 2013 18:57
      Chrono Detector Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Tram 57/59
    Only Malvern and Southbank routes, plus some destinations for special events.  I once took home a destination sheet that had fallen on the tram floor.
    route14
    I thought back then when M>Tram was still around, all the D trams had all the former M>Tram route destinations on the Siemens fleet and there was an image of a D2 showing a 82 Moonee Ponds on the desto here on Vicsig

    http://www.vicsig.net/photo/9330


    Odd....
    Posted: 25 Sep 2013 21:14

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      712M Chief Commissioner

    Back during the closure of Domain Interchange, D1s were often seen displaying Glenhuntly routes. I believe Malvern and Southbank are the only routes that feature automatic announcements.
    Posted: 26 Sep 2013 11:00
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    This morning, A2.274, 280 , 286 and 289 were on route 109.
    This afternoon, route 96 had D1.3535, B2.2111 and A1.246.
    Posted: 26 Sep 2013 21:35
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    D1.3535 ran on route 31 earlier today.
    Due to the grand final parade, route 1 was run by Glenhuntly trams:
    Z1.39
    Z2.113
    Z3.202
    A1.241
    B2.2014 (which is actually a Camberwell tram on loan to GH)
    Posted: 27 Sep 2013 17:55
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    Today I was had a nice ride in B2.2071 on route 96.
    Posted: 01 Oct 2013 19:34
      route14 Chief Commissioner

    The riding quality on B class is really nice compared to fixed bogie trams.
    Posted: 06 Oct 2013 16:14
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    The riding quality on B class is really nice compared to fixed bogie trams.
    "route14"

    Firstly, please keep to the topic.
    Secondly, the seats are better in a B class, but D2s are more comfortable for the ears, and if you're in the centre, your feet as well.

    On a completely different note, W7.1031/9 passed me on St Kilda Rd.
    Posted: 06 Oct 2013 18:10
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    Earlier today one of each type of Combino ran on route 112
    D1.3535 and D2.5005 both ran there.
    Posted: 18 Oct 2013 20:38
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    Route 55, which Essendon Depot normally sends only B2s on during weekends, is 100% Z3 today for some reason.
    Posted: 19 Oct 2013 14:20
      glennofootscray Junior Train Controller

    Location: Footscray
    There is a sewer issue in Grantham St that will require some work early next week, maybe they do not want to drop a fully loaded B2 in to the shizen.

    Regards Glenn
    Posted: 19 Oct 2013 15:54
      TravisJRA Beginner

    Today an E.6003 was spotted at tram stop 53 on route 75 (Stop ID 2953, Highfield Rd/Toorak Rd) when I was waiting for 75 Smile

    The tram was going towards the city and nothing was displayed on the screen.


    Posted: 03 Nov 2013 23:17

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