Spc closure at Mooroopna,

 
  hally Train Controller

Location: Splitting the Eaton up into 18th

Does anyone know why Mooroopna did not qualify for the State Government's Mode Shift Incentive Scheme? Tocumwal does.
"emmastreet"


Mooroopna is too close to the terminals to put it on the train. Any of you who work in containerised freight will understand the following:

1- Vessel cut off say wednesday evening 2200hrs at Patrick 1 East. Via road, containers could be loaded at as late as 5 or 6pm wednesday afternoon/evening and trucked into the terminal in time.

Via Mooroopna rail terminal the same container would need to be loaded by Monday morning, for pick up by midday at the latest. It would be loaded on the train monday arvo for a 6pm departure. In melbourne by the early hours of tuesday into Appelton rail terminal.

From there Patrick will put it on a super B and take it into the terminal for the wednesday evening cutoff..... Can you see the problem?

Now lets factor in that it may be a reefer container. What are you going to do for power at Mooroopna from Monday to Wednesday?? Do you expect the generator on site to work? Do you think there will be space on the train's genset that wont be consumed by toc freight once its loaded?

Also lets talk about container "free time." Say your MT reefer is released from the yard in Melbourne on Monday, it is trucked into Appelton Rail to be loaded onto tuesday evenings down service, unloaded Wednesday morning in mooroopna. You load the reefer for next weeks service to asia departing from partick 1 east with the wednesday night cutoff. You have consumed 9 days if all goes to plan, without hiccup. No DAFF inspections of the container allowed in that time, no spare time for stockpiling boxes to cope with fluctuating orders and deliveries.... No flexibility at all.

All this and the prices to go via rail are equal or higher than road, and road prices were the only thing holding the rail to account, otherwise they would have skyrocketed many years earlier.

Compare infastructure required with road compared with mooroopna rail.

Road - $270k for a sweet as new k200 prime mover
         -$100k for a nice set of b double trailers with alcoas and all the shiny smeg
         -Somewhere to park it up, and someone to wash it for you! and with that you can deliver up to 32 x 20 odd tonne containers into the terminal each week.

So with two trucks and 3 drivers you can do the work of an entire rail terminal in Mooroopna..

Why is Toc successful.....????

Distance. You can not run a truck to do two trips from toc to melbourne each day, meaning your truck can only do 6 trips per week or 12 20ft boxes. Therefore the equipment required increases significantly, and with the greater distance there is less road competition.

Got to roll, dont argue, just comprehend.

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  emmastreet Train Controller

Location: Goulburn Valley
Mooroopna back in business as from today. 12 wagons dropped off from the overnight Down.
  ozfreight Chief Train Controller

Location: hawthorn 3122
Do you know who the operator is ?
Regards

Edward
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Patrick's signs are still up and their crane is being used. ...

Rick
  hally Train Controller

Location: Splitting the Eaton up into 18th
Its occasional cotton from shepparton, the overflow which is surplus to road capacity out of ICS.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

I went past Mooroopna SPC the other day and noticed that everything that was there about 8 weeks ago related to the loading of the train there has gone. (Overhead lifting crane, little site office portable and a few other things) Maybe the end of Mooroopna for now? Last time they stopped loading there all the before mentioned equipment remained
  emmastreet Train Controller

Location: Goulburn Valley
I went past Mooroopna SPC the other day and noticed that everything that was there about 8 weeks ago related to the loading of the train there has gone. (Overhead lifting crane, little site office portable and a few other things) Maybe the end of Mooroopna for now? Last time they stopped loading there all the before mentioned equipment remained
vlocity160
Are you confusing the container terminal with the cannery? Their only relationship is being next door to each other. Whatever was at the terminal 8 weeks ago is still there.
Since Patrick left last December the big yellow stacker, road trucks and a few bits and pieces have gone. Red stacker and site office are still there.

As hally pointed out in the post prior to yours containers are still being loaded. Eight last Friday.
Just from my observations, apart from their name on the gate I don't think Patrick Port Link have anything to do with it. The cotton mob are the only customer and they are supplying their own road trucks and just guessing operating the stacker.
  hally Train Controller

Location: Splitting the Eaton up into 18th
Are you confusing the container terminal with the cannery? Their only relationship is being next door to each other. Whatever was at the terminal 8 weeks ago is still there.
Since Patrick left last December the big yellow stacker, road trucks and a few bits and pieces have gone. Red stacker and site office are still there.

As hally pointed out in the post prior to yours containers are still being loaded. Eight last Friday.
Just from my observations, apart from their name on the gate I don't think Patrick Port Link have anything to do with it. The cotton mob are the only customer and they are supplying their own road trucks and just guessing operating the stacker.
emmastreet

This is an old post, but i am sure given you knew about the wagons tomorrow, that you now know its still PPL opperated, and will continue to be. On an as required basis.

And given the state of the track north of Shepp, you're likely to see some action over the next few weeks at least.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The announcement says the plants at mooroopna and shepparton are being merged into one plant at shepparton.

Is rail now still an option ?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Is rail now still an option ?
freightgate

NO
  hally Train Controller

Location: Splitting the Eaton up into 18th
NO
Nightfire

Why do you think SPCA/CCA has anything to do with the siding in Mooroopna? Even when PPL was operating the Mooroopna siding 3 days/week, SPCA was using KBT to road their boxes to Melbourne. SPC/ARDMONA has nothing to do with the siding at MPA.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
It would help a lot of someone could post the URL of the different yards via googlemaps to this thread.

Regards
Brian

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