Does anyone know if the locos have gone to UGL yet and what modifications are planned for these locos.
Matt
I found a TOC Waiver dated 19/8/13 (http://extranet.artc.com.au/docman/DocManFiles/DocTypes/TOC/Files/12309.PDF?1923319917) for two 2800 class (2809 & 2821) to travel from Albury to UGL where they will be reclassified to 3200 class.
Does anyone know if the locos have gone to UGL yet and what modifications are planned for these locos.
Matt
Not have a great deal of knowledge is this area and somebody might be able to answer my question. If this country is trying to run a "national" rail system then how come a Aurizon 2800 class can run in Victoria and SA, but not NSW.
I would have thought in 2013 we would have national polices and procedures.
I think its because they are so loud. Above it was mentioned they have recieved different mufflers to try and make them quiet enough to run in NSW I suppose.Yes, but why does NSW need quieter locomotives than any other state? The 2800s are not loud compared to other locomotives by any stretch of the imagination!
Yes, but why does NSW need quieter locomotives than any other state? The 2800s are not loud compared to other locomotives by any stretch of the imagination!I'd wager it has something to do with the 2800's being "new" to NSW in 2013, as opposed to already existing in Queensland. At least in NSW, I believe old locos have a grandfather clause, in which they are exempt from a lot of modern regulations, however locos like the 2800's would not be covered, as they're a "new class".
I'd wager it has something to do with the 2800's being "new" to NSW in 2013, as opposed to already existing in Queensland. At least in NSW, I believe old locos have a grandfather clause, in which they are exempt from a lot of modern regulations, however locos like the 2800's would not be covered, as they're a "new class".Or it is just a case of time wasting civil service types making waves and trying to justify their existence? Shades of Parkinson's Law", that in the civil service "Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion"
Or it is just a case of time wasting civil service types making waves and trying to justify their existence? Shades of Parkinson's Law", that in the civil service "Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion"
Or it is just a case of time wasting civil service types making waves and trying to justify their existence? Shades of Parkinson's Law", that in the civil service "Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion"To expand a little on Fireman Dave's comment, the NSW EPA requirements have been in force for some time, at least since the 82 and 90 class locomotives were obtained, say twenty years ago.
Interesting, they've been around for over 10 years so you'd think the problems would have been found long before now!
The original roof was in fact a double roof with the full roof at the lower level and a dummy higher roof at the higher level matching the top of the hood. The horns were mounted on the main roof for clearance reasons with a cutout in the upper roof around them. This cutout allowed water to pool encouraging corrosion of the main lower roof leading to leaks. Removing the upper roof removed the cause of the water pooling, the corrosion and the leaks. It does look a bit odd now. The GL class has a similar dummy roof but hasn't had the corrosion problems.
M636C
The 2800s, built at the same time as the NRs didn't have to meet the NSW requirements as they were envisaged as being used only within Queensland.The question doesn't change, but let's reverse the argument then. If the 2800s are too noisy in NSW, why aren't they too noisy in other states. Do NSW residents have more sensitive ears?
The question doesn't change, but let's reverse the argument then. If the 2800s are too noisy in NSW, why aren't they too noisy in other states. Do NSW residents have more sensitive ears?I disagree with your first comment, clearly made in jest, and completely agree with your second comment. The railways continually try and fail, from the different gauges to the differing standards. We live in one country, yet with our different gauges, rulesm, safeworking systems, etc, I'd suggest that some European countries have more compatible railways with their neighbors than we do within our own borders!
Standards should be nation wide.
The question doesn't change, but let's reverse the argument then. If the 2800s are too noisy in NSW, why aren't they too noisy in other states. Do NSW residents have more sensitive ears?
Standards should be nation wide.
The question doesn't change, but let's reverse the argument then. If the 2800s are too noisy in NSW, why aren't they too noisy in other states. Do NSW residents have more sensitive ears?
Standards should be nation wide.
The original roof was in fact a double roof with the full roof at the lower level and a dummy higher roof at the higher level matching the top of the hood. ....... This cutout allowed water to pool encouraging corrosion of the main lower roof leading to leaks. Removing the upper roof removed the cause of the water pooling, the corrosion and the leaks. It does look a bit odd now. The GL class has a similar dummy roof but hasn't had the corrosion problems.It sounds as though they weren't built properly if the primary roof has water pooling on it. Removing the Sun Roof (the dummy roof) may mean a requirement for new insulation for the main roof, and/or more powerful air-conditioning. As a former resident of Qld and the Pilbara, Peter, I am sure you appreciate the benefits of the sun roof before modern aircon. Though the weirdest sun roofs were those on Brisbane cabs in the late 70's, F1 drivers could only dream of aerofoils as big.
M636C
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