Countrylink delays

 
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
If you live in that area, why not book it Junee-Griffith only?

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  CMTheTrainGeek Locomotive Fireman

Location: Waiting at Revesby...
on my countrylink journey, Goulburn to Campbelltown, the melbourne XPT ran out of diesel and was 2 hrs late!
  DL_Daily Locomotive Driver

I might take a tour of the Griffith-Leeton-Narandera-Junee line on the 17th August and see if there is any track works happening although I don't have the desired vehicle to access some of the isolated areas.

Of note is the AK car will be in the area on Wednesday 21st August 2013
SK81 on Wed 21/08/2013 will depart Junee 0700 arrive Hillston 1530 TEST Loop and stable. Forms SK82 Thursday 22nd.

Got nothing better to do on the weekend unless of course I get (win) an invitation to Makers Mark "46" Bourbon debut shock
  DL_Daily Locomotive Driver

If you live in that area, why not book it Junee-Griffith only?
Watson374
Wouldn't work as you would be on a coach service still from Junee to Griffith, you would need to book from Cootamundra or further north to go to Griffith via the Stockinbingal freight route is my guess.
  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia
Looks like there will be more opportunities now...

NSW TrainLink have updated the trackwork- now the Griffith Xplorer service will run via Stockinbingal on the 17/18th August, 24/25th August and the 31 Aug/ 1 Sept.

http://www.nswtrainlink.info/your_journey/service_alerts
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

NSW Trainlink trackwork???

I thought the ARTC was still looking after track work outside the RailCorp boundaries (RailCorp still owns the infrastructure as previously)

Edit: Looks like it doesn't stop for passengers between Cootamundra & Griffith, according to the booking page.
  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia
NSW Trainlink trackwork???

I thought the ARTC was still looking after track work outside the RailCorp boundaries (RailCorp still owns the infrastructure as previously)

Edit: Looks like it doesn't stop for passengers between Cootamundra & Griffith, according to the booking page.
Newcastle Express
Sorry I meant the NSW TrainLink trackwork page...
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Southern

CLK631 - the 06:58 Sydney to Canberra XPLORER service will terminate at Gouburn and replaced by a road coach service from Goulburn to Canberra.

CLK634 - the 11:55 Canberra to Sydney XPLORER service will be replaced by a road coach service from Canberra to Goulburn. The XPLORER will commence from Goulburn and operate to Sydney.

CLK642 the 07:25 Griffith to Sydney XPLORER service will be diverted via Stockinbingal to Sydney. Passengers from Leeton, Narrandera, Coolamon and Junee will travel on coach service CLK732 to Wagga Wagga then change to CLK624 XPT service from Wagga Wagga to Sydney.
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

Any news on what happened to today's Broken Hill train?

It was originally listed as having a late (90 minute) departure out of Sydney due to the usual 'operational issues'.

It is now listed as being terminated at Bathurst with buses on to Broken Hill (with 'extensive delays').

I guess that means tomorrow's B/Hill to Sydney train is also gone, with passengers getting to have the joys of a 12 hour+ bus ride instead.....


Also, wonder if they have finally bedded down the new CountryLink times come October......
  thefatcontroller Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, Australia
Any news on what happened to today's Broken Hill train?

It was originally listed as having a late (90 minute) departure out of Sydney due to the usual 'operational issues'.

It is now listed as being terminated at Bathurst with buses on to Broken Hill (with 'extensive delays').

I guess that means tomorrow's B/Hill to Sydney train is also gone, with passengers getting to have the joys of a 12 hour+ bus ride instead.....


Also, wonder if they have finally bedded down the new CountryLink times come October......
craigfitz1
A user on the BusAustralia forum said that some of the cars had engine shutdown issues...
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

Thanks for that.

By the way, did anyone travel on the Griffith train when it was diverted via Stockinbingal in the past few weeks? If so, what was the ride quality/track speed like?

Possibly a feasible long term alternative instead of the normal Junee, Leeton etc route? Or just a novel break of routine for this much-cancelled train.
  RegionalReverie Beginner

Any news on what happened to today's Broken Hill train?

It was originally listed as having a late (90 minute) departure out of Sydney due to the usual 'operational issues'.

It is now listed as being terminated at Bathurst with buses on to Broken Hill (with 'extensive delays').

I guess that means tomorrow's B/Hill to Sydney train is also gone, with passengers getting to have the joys of a 12 hour+ bus ride instead.....


Also, wonder if they have finally bedded down the new CountryLink times come October......
craigfitz1
At about 17:10 today I sighted Xplorer set EC 2022 + EB 2017 + EA 2008 stationary on the Up road in Bathurst yard just south of the station. It then stopped at the station platform briefly, then departed towards Sydney. There were no passengers on board.
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

Another shocker of a day for our friends at CountryLink, right at the end of the peak school holiday period.

There are multiple Xplorer cancellations due to 'mechanical issues', including both to and from Armidale, and to and from Canberra.
At least the Moree Xplorer seems to have somehow survived all the carnage (though I would not be in the least bit surprised if this is also cancelled).

http://www.nswtrainlink.info/your_journey/service_alerts#North_Western

The mechanical issues surrounding the ageing XPT fleet have been well canvassed, including in the mainstream press, and there was a plan announced recently to change the way maintenance was carried out.
Perhaps the Xplorer fleet is also just about at the end of its life? Of course, having no spare equipment for contingencies does not help one little bit. Do the NSW TrainLink folks have this on their radar? Or is it just business as usual (limping from problem to problem) in this newly rebranded outfit.
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
What's the story with this?

CLK634  - The 11:55 Canberra to Sydney Xplorer service has been replaced by a road coach service for all passengers booked to join at Canberra station and to leave the service in Sydney only. All other passengers will join the Xplorer service.
NSWTL
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

What's the story with this?
jb17kx

I suspect that it is because the train is down to only two carriages (correct??), and they have thus juggled demand so that everyone will fit into a two car train. But, that's only an educated guess based on some similar incident from a while ago.

Meanwhile, back at the depot, they must be pretty busy with three or four Xplorers up on the blocks. As others have said before, at some point someone must call 'time' on this farce. Either inject serious capital into replacement or rebuilt stock, or cut back on the demands being made on the existing trains.
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
That seems odd; the majority demand is probably for a level of intermediate travel not end-to-end but Canberra generates most of the journeys.  Also if they were at all interested in costs then a shorter road trip may be less expensive.  It would certainly be less damaging to the reputation of the rail operator but that's something else no-one seems to give a rat's bottom about.

The wording implies coach replacement for Canberra - Sydney journeys but could also be interpreted as for all those joining in Canberra (irrespective of destination) and for all those (from all points) travelling to Sydney.
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
Whats the corporate structure of NSW trains and Sydney trains.
Do they have any ability to borrow money to fix their trains , if the NSW Govt wont give them any.
Can the CEOs make independant financial decisions, or is the Transport Minister still in charge.
The NSW Govt has no money to spend on anything ATM , and wont have until the next round of privatizations
of the Electricity Industry take place .
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

Today's Sydney Morning Herald has a column devoted to the "endless track work and staggering number of breakdowns " of the Moree service.
This is followed by a lively set of comments from Herald readers.

Yes, rail fans can quibble that it is not fair that CountryLink get blamed for things like the 'endless' track possessions, but in the general public's mind it is all lumped together as 'the railways'. And to be fair, why should Joe Public have to know all the subtleties of just who is responsible for which bit of track (Sydney Trains, John Holland, ARTC or whoever......). The public just want reliable and comfortable trains not cancelled at the drop of a hat. The last state Labor government suffered immense reputational damage for their public transport failures (including in the regions), and the current mob do seem to be slow to take this on board (despite name changes and few paint jobs and pretty logos).

The cynical side of me thinks that Treasury folks are just biding their time before the whole CountryLink ('NSW TrainLink Regional'  in the new parlance) show collapses. I hope to be proved wrong.


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  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
The entire article seems to be the opinion of just 1 person, who claims that they are "forced" to travel by Countrylink.
Id be interested to know how the forcing works.
What percentage of Joe average public evens travels by Countrylink.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
What percentage of Joe average public evens travels by Countrylink.
"MD"
You win the internet.
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

The entire article seems to be the opinion of just 1 person, who claims that they are "forced" to travel by Countrylink.
Id be interested to know how the forcing works.
What percentage of Joe average public evens travels by Countrylink.
MD

No-one is pretending that it is written by the resident transport specialist. It is part of the 'Heckler' series of columns where members of the public write to get their things off their chest.  You do not have to take the 'forced' claims 100% literally!

Obviously only a small percentage of the public uses trains for long distance trips compared to the private car or the plane, but that's not what the column was about. It, and the accompanying reader inputs (accurate or otherwise) was a nice little reminder that folks outside of rail fan forums also have interesting views on rail. Sorry if you felt your time was wasted in reading it.

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