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Clearing grain wagons from Ararat to Maryborough SG Branch

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      MillzyNo6 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Horsham
    Here are the latest 6 wagons in the yard taken off the branch

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/60627979@N02/8126360651/
    Posted: 28 Oct 2012 10:09

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      Calgully Deputy Commissioner

    Location:
    The line was only ever used for grain anyway, at lease I don't know of any other use for the line.
    "aussiebbq"


    The line was in fact used for general freight and carriage of passengers in the distant past.

    See here http://www.victorianrailways.net/timetables/1928country/27_28.html

    It doesn't change the argument about what safeworking is needed today of course.
    Posted: 28 Oct 2012 11:04
      MillzyNo6 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Horsham
    Yesterday there was a maintenance crew there working on the 100t wagons, they must be replacing the wheels as you can see some in the pic below and as I was heading back to Ballarat I overtook a PN maintenance truck loaded with wheel sets. Also there was 13 VHGF wagons on the middle track possibly waiting to be looked at.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/60627979@N02/8149258077/
    Posted: 03 Nov 2012 12:48
      Raichase Captain Rant!

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    Now those are interesting hoppers - do we know if they're destined for NSW or Victorian grain working?
    Posted: 03 Nov 2012 16:08
      ozfreight Chief Train Controller

    Location: hawthorn 3122
    Now those are interesting hoppers - do we know if they're destined for NSW or Victorian grain working?
    "Raichase"


    A spokes-women  for PN told  "The Weekly Times" this week that the wagons would be used ,on trial basis, in NSW and that some of the wagons are only about 12 year old.

    Edward
    Posted: 06 Nov 2012 16:35
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
    >A spokes-women  for PN told  "The Weekly Times" this week that the wagons would be used ,on trial basis, in NSW and that some of the wagons are only about 12 year old.

    Edward
    "ozfreight"


    The fist wagon at the Maryborough end
    Posted: 06 Nov 2012 17:09
      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    Now those are interesting hoppers - do we know if they're destined for NSW or Victorian grain working?
    "Raichase"

    A spokes-women for PN told "The Weekly Times" this week that the wagons would be used ,on trial basis, in NSW and that some of the wagons are only about 12 year old.
    "ozfreight"

    The VHLY and VHNY wagons were VHGF / VHEF wagons rebuilt to 100 tonne capacity in the early 2000s:
    http://www.pjv101.net/cd/pages/cvhlym.htm
    http://www.pjv101.net/cd/pages/cvhnym.htm

    The similar looking VHKY wagons were new builds:
    http://www.pjv101.net/cd/pages/cvhkym.htm

    Some wagon numbers from an earlier thread:
    http://www.railpage.com.au/f-p1680175.htm#1680175



    Posted: 06 Nov 2012 20:16
      Raichase Captain Rant!

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    Now those are interesting hoppers - do we know if they're destined for NSW or Victorian grain working?
    "Raichase"


    A spokes-women for PN told "The Weekly Times" this week that the wagons would be used ,on trial basis, in NSW and that some of the wagons are only about 12 year old.

    Edward
    "ozfreight"


    Thanks for that info mate!
    Posted: 07 Nov 2012 09:50
      K-Class Chief Train Controller

    Location: Melbourne
    Just for those who may be interested:

    On Friday 12th October 2012, a Vehicle Transfer Train will operate between on the Ararat – Maryborough Corridor between Ararat and KP 264.000 for the relocation of stored freight vehicles.

    I wonder how many could be left?
    Cheers all.
    "damooops"


    As of 5pm this afternoon there was 23 x VHBF, 12 x VHLY, 7 x VHKY, 13 x VKNY

    The next wagons to come off the line will be the 23 VHBY hoppers before they can get to the rest of the 100 tonners

    Matt
    Posted: 07 Nov 2012 21:49
      MillzyNo6 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Horsham
    Just for those who may be interested:

    On Friday 12th October 2012, a Vehicle Transfer Train will operate between on the Ararat – Maryborough Corridor between Ararat and KP 264.000 for the relocation of stored freight vehicles.

    I wonder how many could be left?
    Cheers all.
    "damooops"


    As of 5pm this afternoon there was 23 x VHBF, 12 x VHLY, 7 x VHKY, 13 x VKNY

    The next wagons to come off the line will be the 23 VHBY hoppers before they can get to the rest of the 100 tonners

    Matt
    "K-Class"


    While looking through my video of the wagons I took 2 years ago when they were all stored there, I noticed that the recently removed VHNY's were all stored behind the VHBF wagons on the Maryborough end with the VHGY wagons stored on the Ararat end. You can see here in this screen shot of the video I recored the VHBF wagons inbetween the VHNY's and VHGY's. The circle shows the once stored VHGY's that are now back in service that were located on the Ararat end of the line.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/60627979@N02/8163741450/

    So when the 6 VHNY's that were removed approx 2 weeks ago, does that mean that they pulled all 23 VHBF wagons back into Ararat yard, detatch the 6 VHNY's and then push the 23 VHBF wagons back to where they were and hence blocking the remaining VHLY's VHKY's etc. Why go through all this effort to get the VHNY's when they could of just plucked 6 VHBF's?? And does this mean it will happen again when they want more VHLY's etc to re-enter service??
    Posted: 07 Nov 2012 23:02
      Burkey Station Master

    Sorry to revive the old thread, but could someone update us on how many (if any) wagons are still sitting unused on the line? Thanks.
    Posted: 17 Sep 2013 08:25
      MillzyNo6 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Horsham
    Still 55 wagons last time I drove past.

    They seem to only service VHGF/Y etc in the Ararat yard now instead of re activating the stored wagons.
    Posted: 17 Sep 2013 10:23
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Pictures from Ararat Yard yesterday (6/10/2013):



    Close to 10 or so wagons in 3 road.








    Single wagon in 4 or 5 road:
    Posted: 07 Oct 2013 09:46

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      bevans Site Admin
    Posted: 07 Oct 2013 11:36

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      Junior Rodgie Dodgie

    Location: Allansford
    Wagons all ex Portland I beleive
    Posted: 07 Oct 2013 15:26
      dmgrail Junior Train Controller

    Location: Wangaratta Vic. 3677
    Thanks to Brian for putting up the links to larger photos that he took at Ararat on 06-10-2013. It has been possible to identify four of the VHGF hoppers viz 394F, 426U, 483J & 596Y. None of those wagons were stored on the Ararat - Maryborough line. VHGF 394F was reported as being in storage at Portland on 31.10.2008. VHGF482J was observed on an Up Oaklands Grain train on 18.12.2011. According to an undated Pacific National wagon dump (believed to be from early 2011), all four wagons were reported as being at Dimboola and available for operation.

    Daryl M Gregory
    Posted: 07 Oct 2013 22:32
      Dd893 Train Controller

    Location: Castlemaine
    Drove past the stored grain wagons yesterday (Friday Jan 23) and counted 31 hoppers in the north group. There was only 1 in what was the south group and it was in the rail reserve laying on its belly.
    3 low loaders were present, one loaded with bogies. So I gather the rest of that group have been taken away for scrapping.

    In Ararat were 2 sidings with about 13 wagons in each of what were the old VR GJF/GJX type of hoppers, plus about 12 mineral sand hoppers.

    I searched and this seemed the most appropriate thread to post in.

    Cheers, Murray
    Posted: 24 Jan 2015 22:06
      Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
    So where they pulled out by rail, or by road?
    Posted: 25 Jan 2015 20:42
      Dd893 Train Controller

    Location: Castlemaine
    Drove back home this arvo past the stored wagons. The wagon that was laying at an angle to the tracks on the ground is back on wheels on the track. It is parked by itself South of the other 31 wagons.
    There were no cranes about when I went past Friday, so it might have gone back on the tracks on Saturday. No low loaders or cranes about today.

    Cheers, Murray
    Posted: 26 Jan 2015 21:20
      NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

    Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
    A picture doing the rounds on the internet



    After nearly nine years of storage in the siding at Antwerp (north of Dimboola on the Rainbow branch), the rake of twenty one VHBF grain hoppers are being removed. They were placed at this location late in June 2006 and have remained there ever since, only leaving the siding briefly on at least two occasions when they were hauled out onto the main line only to be immediately pushed back into the siding which was to prevent the bearings seizing up.

    On the morning of Tues.24.2.2015 a large fork lift was being used to lift the hoppers off their bogies and place them on the ground and the bogies were also being taken off the rails.

    http://www.railfanguide.wancon.com.au/
    Posted: 06 Mar 2015 13:11

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      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    This line must qualify as one of the least used lines in history (and therefore the greatest, most wasteful white elephant). Rebuilt to NSW gauge at great expense and then barely used. How many wheaties actually ran from Dunolly to Portland after regauging?

    Okay, the Rosstown Railway was the least used railway in the state, but this line must be in competition with the Dunkeld - Penshurst line for the number two position, it makes the disastrous Lancefield - Kilmore line look like a wise investment in comparison.
    Posted: 06 Mar 2015 14:47
      mikesyd Chief Commissioner

    Location: Lurking
    A picture doing the rounds on the internet



    After nearly nine years of storage in the siding at Antwerp (north of Dimboola on the Rainbow branch), the rake of twenty one VHBF grain hoppers are being removed. They were placed at this location late in June 2006 and have remained there ever since, only leaving the siding briefly on at least two occasions when they were hauled out onto the main line only to be immediately pushed back into the siding which was to prevent the bearings seizing up.

    On the morning of Tues.24.2.2015 a large fork lift was being used to lift the hoppers off their bogies and place them on the ground and the bogies were also being taken off the rails.

    http://www.railfanguide.wancon.com.au/
    NSWGR8022
    That is a different line - the Rainbow line. Separate to the matters discussed in this thread.
    Posted: 09 Mar 2015 13:21

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