Tonsley Upgrade Thread

 
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Any news on this project? It looks to me that the project is still going ahead so does that mean the state government is funding the entire project now or has the federal government caved in and decided to fund the other half of this project?
"Milkomeda"
The current works are fully funded by the state government, a decision made on the basis that they'll get some of the money back at some later date. They forgot two things - the principle of parliamentary government that no parliament is bound by its predecessor, and that there was more chance of the Crows winning the flag this September than Labor winning the federal election* and still being around next year to deliver on their promises.

The state government got caught with its pants down here, and they'll just have to suck it up and own the consequences by either scaling back the later stages of the project or taking responsibility for finding the remaining $31.5 million. Maybe they could try and work out what happened to the $40 million which was included in the Adelaide Oval project budget for the footbridge even after the footbridge got shifted to the Riverbank stuff, and use that for Tonsley instead with change left over.

* the Crows were just one win short of making the finals, Labor is looking like being 22 seats short of a majority.

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  Tallboy-Lemond Station Master

Any news on this project? It looks to me that the project is still going ahead so does that mean the state government is funding the entire project now or has the federal government caved in and decided to fund the other half of this project?
"Milkomeda"


Track will be finished mid next month and hopefully stations to be tendered shortly after. Daws road duplication will be over the october long weekend. The Bus-bus interchange located a few hundred meters away from Tonsley station, (note it is not referred to as a bus-train interchange) may be a casualty of the election.
  opendoorz Locomotive Driver

Location: please mind the gap when alighting from the train
Saw 2 tracks at the Daws Rd crossing the other day so its happening
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
Not that I can post update all that often, I was in Adelaide last weekend, and had the opportunity to take some photos around Ascot Park and Daws Rd. I've posted them to my Flickr account - http://www.flickr.com/photos/98951543@N02/sets/72157635875788826/

There's a bit of overlap with the Noarlunga/Seaford Line Upgrade in the set.
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
The points at the S end of the new double track have been installed on concrete sleepers.  Photo taken yesterday from Celtic Ave level crossing.  



Alex C
  Mad_About_Trams Beginner

Hi, new to the forum and as a former Mitchell Park kid I never thought I'd ever see in my lifetime any kind of duplication on the Tonsley line. It has been a good few years since I last lived in Adelaide, how times have changed. Red Hens where the norm, and only ever had peak time service. Good to see though, was always nice when a 930 class rumbled down the tracks to load up a few wagons of new cars from the old Mitsubishi plant
  redadare Junior Train Controller

Location: Flagstaff Hill
Yep. Sign on Marion Rd south of Daws Rd - Daws Rd closed from 8pm Fri 4/10 to 5am Tues 8/10

I'll be there!   Smile
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
Does anyone know what work was done on the Celtic ave crossing on Tuesday and Wednesday?  This crossing was only upgraded recently, why would they need to do it again?
  nm39 Chief Commissioner

Location: By a road taking pictures
Does anyone know what work was done on the Celtic ave crossing on Tuesday and Wednesday?  This crossing was only upgraded recently, why would they need to do it again?
Tonsley213
I went across it last night. The only thing to see was new asphalt laid on either side and between the rails. I would hazard a guess that this was a quick sleeper and ballast change.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

From last night

From Daws Rd looking towards Ascot Park

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Daws Rd ready for the shutdown, looking towards Tonsley

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From Daws Road, shows good length of double track. No issues with a 15 minute service on completion.

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  mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

Location: recharging my myki
Is the line double till just before Tonsley?
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

No!

If you look at the pictures you will see the double line ends just before the Celtic Avenue LX. Length of double track about 600 metres as advised in the DPTI handout.

There will be a "double junction" of some sort at Ascot Park. At ground level I am not sure it will be configured as GF Vincent has shown. Looks more like one track will lead off the down NC track with a new turnout, then there will be the existing trailing cross over then the existing lead off the down track. There does not appear room for the crossing to the up track shown on Vincent's diagram. Putting it another way, the new turnout TJ3 will be on the Adelaide side of cross over TJ1.
  BillD Chief Train Controller
  witsend Chief Commissioner
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
[img]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2835/10112387814_9d83260a02.jpg[/img]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nthbeach/10112387814/

Sunday afternoon. Traffic control expects the crossing to be open to tomorrow ahead of schedule. Some tidy up works tonight.
  redadare Junior Train Controller

Location: Flagstaff Hill
The company doing the trackwork (John Holland?) is finishing up this Sunday.
  redadare Junior Train Controller

Location: Flagstaff Hill
The western track of the double track ends in a dead end near Ascot Park Station so it cant be used at present. Plans are for the final connection to be done next April. It includes at least a diamond. That trackwork will be pre-done in Castlemaine, Vic and the concrete sleepers under it at Rockhampton of all places. There's none of supporting local industry, is there?
Although the Tampers etc are John Holland, I believe the company doing the work is Coleman.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The company doing the trackwork (John Holland?) is finishing up this Sunday.
redadare
Wow, that was fast, the whole thing this Sunday?  For once something on this project has happened really quickly-
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

The proposed crossing is a waste of money.

If you take the down turnout of the down main on the up side of the crossover down branch movements can clear the mainline while waiting for an up Tonsley movement to clear the branch. Up movements from Tonsley us the western track and access the up main via the crossover.

Only a single turnout is required and perhaps the crossover has to be moved a few metres in the down direction.

In days of yore that kind of thing was done on a Sunday morning before services resumed at Sunday lunchtime after all good people had gone to church. That work included having the signals operating again.

Only about 3 years ago the old machine shop at Islington was used to make turnouts and crossings, now it is a Bunnings site. There were planers in there that could, and did, machine the frames of a 520 or 720; they used them to machine the point blades.
Getting the concrete baulks from Rockhampton when there are concrete firms in SA indicates why this state is copulated with.

Ian
  Tallboy-Lemond Station Master

The proposed crossing is a waste of money.

If you take the down turnout of the down main on the up side of the crossover down branch movements can clear the mainline while waiting for an up Tonsley movement to clear the branch. Up movements from Tonsley us the western track and access the up main via the crossover.

Only a single turnout is required and perhaps the crossover has to be moved a few metres in the down direction.

In days of yore that kind of thing was done on a Sunday morning before services resumed at Sunday lunchtime after all good people had gone to church. That work included having the signals operating again.

Only about 3 years ago the old machine shop at Islington was used to make turnouts and crossings, now it is a Bunnings site. There were planers in there that could, and did, machine the frames of a 520 or 720; they used them to machine the point blades.
Getting the concrete baulks from Rockhampton when there are concrete firms in SA indicates why this state is copulated with.

Ian
"steam4ian"


at least the points, sleepers and rail are made in Aust, not China. The new points are much better than the older type.

I'm also not so sure days of yore, we're so great, and they definately did not have the safety documents and procedures we have to work with today.
  2001 The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
* short burst of dramatic music* ....



COMMUTERS will be left in limbo and the state could be left with a transport white elephant as a furious slanging match erupts over the future of the Tonsley rail upgrade. The federal Coalition pulled $32 million funding from the project when it came into power - however, the State Government believes it later had the funding approved.Work on the duplication and upgrade was meant to be finished within weeks but now the works might be left unfinished.

The Federal Government has accused the State Government of going ahead without approval, while Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis stood in front of busy trucks and contractors on Thursday and insisted Prime Minister Tony Abbott had given the project the thumbs up. He said $18 million - $9 million from the Federal Government - had already been spent and if the rest wasn't forthcoming the line "may never operate".      

Assistant Transport Minister Jamie Briggs says the Federal Government warned the State Government in emails both before and after the election that they were upgrading the line at their own risk because they did not have Federal approval.But Mr Koutsantonis said they had "an arrangement" and the state government believes it has legal grounds to fight for the money.                  

"Since the election the Prime Minister and the Premier had discussions about contracts actually having been let. People are working, boots are on the ground," he said."The PM agreed with the Premier it would be inappropriate and create sovereign risk to end contracts … so he agreed to honour that contract," he said.Mr Briggs said they didn't want an "ongoing brawl" and that while Mr Abbott had said they wouldn't "tear up" work where contracts had already been signed, in this case contracts hadn't been signed and approval hadn't been given."We're not looking to dud SA we're looking to invest in roads. We got this out there early to clear up confusion about urban rail," he said.The stoush comes after The Advertiser revealed the Federal Government pulled a surprise move by withdrawing a promised $76.2 million for the electrification of the Gawler line.
The Australian


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/future-of-tonsley-rail-line-clouded-as-federal-government-pulls-funding/story-e6frg6n6-1226746326011
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

SA government is gong to have to cough up that money themselves so they can fund enough money to at least make the line operational. Thank god Tony Abbott has agreed to honour the contract for the electrification of the Seaford Line.

Koutsantonis is going to have to apply enough pressure to the federal government if the rest of that funding is to ever be seen otherwise its gonna be down to 2 choices either they fork up the rest of the money or shut the Tonsley Line down once and for all.

Either way the outcome of this wont be good
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Turbo Tom having out his fight with the federal government in public isn't going to help anything, somebody should tell him they are a slightly tougher opponent than a retail business trying to minimise a pay rise.

Seriously, where do the ALP find cretins like him? Is the barrel really that empty?
  4BJ Chief Commissioner

Location: Backside almost trackside at Hawthorn near Mitcham
Don't blame me.  I voted Labor.

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