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      gippslander Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
    Your numbers seam a little mixed up there.

    The Bairnsdale goods ceased In 1994, the Maffra goods lasted a year or two later.

    Sale had a fastrack goods on and off to the end of fastrack 2006 ?
    "Nightfire"


    The Maffra line lasted until 1993...an N class and one container wagon wrapped it up. It was run as a switch off the Bairnsdale goods. You're right about Sale Fastrack, I think it was carrying very little at the end. After 1996 it was handled by road from Morwell.  When the Bairnsdale goods was stopped I remember the local Caltex distributor being very displeased as they were quite happy with fuel coming in via rail. The other inbound traffic  at the end of the line was briquettes for the hospital and the occasional van of wool heading outwards.
    Posted: 31 Oct 2013 22:21

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      Hairy Train Controller

    Location: arts end of victoria
    Test Train, which had been sitting at Sale Freight Gate, is on the move this morning. A class, leading the P class..
    Posted: 03 Nov 2013 09:10
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Two questions

    1. Are there adequate overnight stabling facilities at Sale or will evening arrivals return to Traralgon and head back to Sale in the morning?

    2. Will the Sunday Vlocity to Sale also resume this week? Prior to the March closure VLocities were banned from the Traralgon - Sale section.
    712M

    There are plenty of spare tracks for holding trains at sale.  Here is also a large Freight Gate area which could do with some use.

    Regards
    Brian
    Posted: 03 Nov 2013 09:23
      The Vinelander Minister for Railways

    Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
    Last Monday 4th November the track grinder was stabled at a very decrepit siding at Goornong for grinding the whole length of the line from North Bendigo to Echuca.

    Mike.
    Posted: 08 Nov 2013 14:10
      The Vinelander Minister for Railways

    Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
    Just in from a mate who recently drove a down Bairnsdale train...

    Arrived BDE (Bairnsdale) 9" late. Lots of L.Xings upgraded with new signage/bells/lights/booms 'Healthy State' indicators and lots and lots of new low profile concrete sleepers randomly scattered throughout and the odd amounts of fresh ballast here and there.. The rails have only been milled between the opposing whistle boards at the L.Xings and nowhere else.

    Track is still basically sh1te.

    Mike.
    Posted: 11 Nov 2013 13:15

    Last edited by The Vinelander on 15 Nov 2013 10:02; edited 2 times in total
      Duncs Chief Commissioner

    Last Monday 4th November the track grinder was stabled at a very decrepit siding at Goornong for grinding the whole length of the line from North Bendigo to Echuca.

    Mike.
    The Vinelander
    I believe that this line was re railed with ex RFR 47 kg rail. Plus fresh sleepers and ballast. Can anyone confirm this?

    I asume the grinding is for the track circuits for the upgraded level crossings.
    Posted: 11 Nov 2013 14:51
      Hairy Train Controller

    Location: arts end of victoria
    I believe that this line was re railed with ex RFR 47 kg rail. Plus fresh sleepers and ballast. Can anyone confirm this?

    I asume the grinding is for the track circuits for the upgraded level crossings.
    Duncs
    Some of the rail, between the Hobson Street Crossing and Highway Crossing,  have been replaced...the rest, I'm unsure of...
    Posted: 11 Nov 2013 16:55
      thekingoffoxes Chief Train Controller
    Posted: 12 Nov 2013 17:37
      kuldalai Chief Commissioner

    When the Bairnsdale line was re-opened by the former Labour Government it was already 47 kg rail but was subject to tie renewal and ballast top up and line was welded , surfacing to track standard that  supports  100kmh loco hauled operation .  (Was supposed to be Class-2 standard allowing 115kmh loco hauled pass operation) but that has never happened .

    Recent work has been rail grinding of lx approach circuits and spot replacement of slimline concrete for wood sleepers .
    Posted: 13 Nov 2013 05:19
      gippslander Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
    I came down to Bairnsdale on the 9.35 ex Traralgon for work meetings today - on time running throughout and a very smooth ride as well. Heading back on the late afternoon train - much better travelling than the boring highway drive!
    Posted: 13 Nov 2013 12:18
      JimYarin Chief Commissioner

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    I came down to Bairnsdale on the 9.35 ex Traralgon for work meetings today - on time running throughout and a very smooth ride as well. Heading back on the late afternoon train - much better travelling than the boring highway drive!
    gippslander

    this is great feedback. if only we had these options in sa. did the train slow for any major level crossings?
    Posted: 13 Nov 2013 12:30
      gippslander Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
    this is great feedback. if only we had these options in sa. did the train slow for any major level crossings?
    JimYarin


    The train ran at full speed throughout, interrupted only by the lengthy permanent speed restriction over the Avon River bridge at Stratford.
    Posted: 13 Nov 2013 20:37
      Duncs Chief Commissioner

    The train ran at full speed throughout, interrupted only by the lengthy permanent speed restriction over the Avon River bridge at Stratford.
    gippslander
    Which will remain until the bridge finally has to be replaced.
    Posted: 13 Nov 2013 20:47
      Duncs Chief Commissioner

    The train ran at full speed throughout, interrupted only by the lengthy permanent speed restriction over the Avon River bridge at Stratford.
    Which will remain until the bridge finally has to be replaced.
    Posted: 13 Nov 2013 20:49
      gippslander Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
    Which will remain until the bridge finally has to be replaced.
    "Duncs"


    And that time must be surely edging closer.
    Posted: 14 Nov 2013 22:21
      brownhillboy Train Controller

    And that time must be surely edging closer.
    gippslander
    According to the Independance Group website, the EES for the Stockman Mine near Benambra now proposes that the 140,000 tonnes per annum of concentrate will be moved to the Port of Geelong by B-Double truck.

    No chance now of a future intermodal service to Bairnsdale, so bridge replacement in the medium term is very unlikely.
    Posted: 15 Nov 2013 19:01
      B 67 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Gippsland
    According to the Independance Group website, the EES for the Stockman Mine near Benambra now proposes that the 140,000 tonnes per annum of concentrate will be moved to the Port of Geelong by B-Double truck.

    No chance now of a future intermodal service to Bairnsdale, so bridge replacement in the medium term is very unlikely.
    brownhillboy
    And with the way things work these days, a replacement would probably require a minimum 12 month bustitution.

    There'd probably be a way of improving the existing bridge - even while it was in use - widening or replacing the steel and iron spans, Hiding steel or concrete piles in the existing timber ones (assuming any effort was made to retain the appearance of the existing structure) at the down end and possibly replacing the trestle section all together.

    Speeds of around 50-60km/h might then be possible. A very expensive realignment and separate new bridge is the only way to get rid of the curve though.
    Posted: 16 Nov 2013 00:02
      JimYarin Chief Commissioner

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    According to the Independance Group website, the EES for the Stockman Mine near Benambra now proposes that the 140,000 tonnes per annum of concentrate will be moved to the Port of Geelong by B-Double truck.

    No chance now of a future intermodal service to Bairnsdale, so bridge replacement in the medium term is very unlikely.
    brownhillboy

    was the traffic ever offered to one of the rail operators in gippsland? qube are running to morewell?

    why not combine the traffic with timber haulage or has this stopped?
    Posted: 18 Nov 2013 12:38
      speedemon08 Mary

    Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
    Was the traffic ever offered to one of the rail operators in gippsland? QUBE are running to Morwell?

    Why not combine the traffic with timber haulage or has this stopped?
    JimYarin
    The log train stopped early 2009, what I was told that the GFC and Black Saturday killed it off and the market for it.
    Posted: 18 Nov 2013 12:45
      gippslander Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
    The log train stopped early 2009, what I was told that the GFC and Black Saturday killed it off and the market for it.
    "speedemon08"


    After the 2009 fires, much of the logging activity moved to the State's north east to salvage fire damaged timber. In any case, the sawmilling industry in East Gippsland is now very much winding down and the remaining players are concentrating on high value added products, not the old staple of house framing and fence posts. If East Gippsland is to regain rail freight, it will be based around the emerging mining industry and food products. Qube would be a logical player as it has the AP Maryvale business and therefore already has a toe hold in the region.
    Posted: 18 Nov 2013 17:06
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
    Bairnsdale to North Geelong Is a very long way to send raw non-vale added timber products of export.

    There are many timber plantations much closer to wood chip / log exporting ports,

    150 km Is a general transport limit from port for export wood chips / logs.

    The Maryvale mill would gobble up a great chunk of plantation timber In the central Gippsland area.
    Posted: 18 Nov 2013 17:31

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