It just occurred to me that since this thread was started the title has taken on a new meaning! 8)I think we are still fairly relevant to the topic, however you may have a case to close this thread with "Due to all the parts of 3830 having being removed from this loco, the 3830 trials will not be happening any time soon"
the 3830 trials will not be happening any time soon"No, no. My point is that 3830's trials are ongoing, but not in the sense they were when this thread was started!
No, no. My point is that 3830's trials are ongoing, but not in the sense they were when this thread was started!A play on words! I got it
If it needs a new boiler then it is probably in trouble.
After the 3801 fiasco it would be hard for any group to find the cash to have another one of these constructed.
I fear 3830 will become another static display if the situation is as bad as it seems.
I'm not to sure during the 1960s when 3830 was aquired by the Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences for preservation if it was intended to ever be a trafficable exhibit, hence no spare boiler was obtained.I recall the MAAS intended to section 3830 for display purposes. So the story goes, it was discovered the cost of sectioning would be greater than full restoration.
But you really cant excuse the poor management of that era by the NSW Rail Transport Museum in not aquiring a spare 38 class boiler or two when they may have been available as freebies from the Dept. or for purchase when 38 class were disposed of as scrap for $5000
No, no. My point is that 3830's trials are ongoing, but not in the sense they were when this thread was started!Just add "... and tribulations."
3801 certainly looks better than an A4.That is a matter of opinion...
Could someone please post a summary of The Railway News article?Why not simply go and purchase a copy?! It is now in the ARHS Bookshop and elsewhere. These specialist niche publications need your support.
I'm not to sure during the 1960s when 3830 was aquired by the Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences for preservation if it was intended to ever be a trafficable exhibit, hence no spare boiler was obtained.No such poor management. Items for retention at that time were decided upon by the Department, even if recommended by RTM. Witness a lack of D-58 Class nowadays or a similar lack of NCR Sets and Enfield Locomotive Depots.
But you really cant excuse the poor management of that era by the NSW Rail Transport Museum in not aquiring a spare 38 class boiler or two when they may have been available as freebies from the Dept. or for purchase when 38 class were disposed of as scrap for $5000
Why not simply go and purchase a copy?! It is now in the ARHS Bookshop and elsewhere. These specialist niche publications need your support.You answered your own question. It is a specialist niche publication which by definition tells you it has a limited reader base and is probably on life support. For those of us in country areas who depend on the Forums and can't afford the luxury of subscribing to every railway publication for what may be one interesting article so often, your suggestion is trite. Simply going and doing something isn't that easy for everyone. I get to go the ARHS Bookshop maybe twice a year. So I will wait til someone gives a précis somewhere of the article. By publishing it in a specialist, niche publication and then implying everyone should simply go and buy it you have done yourself a disservice as a potentially credible reporter of preservation matters. To gain widespread acceptance and credibility maybe casting to widest possible audience would have been smarter.
Why not simply go and purchase a copy?! It is now in the ARHS Bookshop and elsewhere. These specialist niche publications need your support.It doesn't seem to be available in their Online Store and I have never seen it for sale locally. Can you please advise where I can buy it locally?
Why not simply go and purchase a copy?! It is now in the ARHS Bookshop and elsewhere. These specialist niche publications need your support.I'm sorry if that seems a hard question to ask. I'm only wanting a couple of lines, the sort of thing that usually would be posted by someone in a forum anyway.
There was a report in an old RTM magazine that indicated 8 unused 36cl boilers that had been stored at Chullora were donated to the RTM, the article indicated that with these boilers there would be a 36cl running around for many years to come, also IIRC that this would allow for the 3 pigs to be in serviceable condition. The problem of course may well be the over deteriation of the rest of the engines as they have been in the outside elements for how many years now, & whether or not the boilers got to Thirlmere, & where & how they too were stored.I recall there was also a round top 36 class boiler available elsewhere.
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