I would suggest that no thought whatsoever has been given to such a harebrained idea. Have you any idea at all of what's involved? Obviously not, or you wouldn't come up with the idea.Ease up, the man was asking a valid question. The same was most likely said of the Walhalla, PBR and VGR folks when their respective projects were first mooted.
Millions of dollars for clearing and track, untold hours of accreditation, and once you've done that you can start looking for locomotives and rolling stock. Then you'd better find people to maintain and run the place.
"probably get excellent patronage" is a wish and nothing else.
Forget it, chum. Try something with a better chance of working, like finding the Philosopher's Stone or the Elixir of Youth.
Ease up, the man was asking a valid question. The same was most likely said of the Walhalla, PBR and VGR folks when their respective projects were first mooted.OK - my apologies - I was a bit vehement. To continue, the same was most certainly not said of PBR. Public support showed it to be a racing certainty. Walhalla and VGR are both fortunate examples of projects which were well on their way before we became a Nanny State. To start something today, absolutely from scratch, is a massive undertaking - that's my point. And finally, I am not aware of any group of enthusiastic locals clamouring for such a railway. The groups you mentioned had the (term I hate ) "human resources" to make things happen, and the enthusiasm to go with it.
it'd effectively be a complete rebuild - and then you'd have to hope PBR are prepared to lease some rolling stock coz it doesn't seem there's any NG stuff left outside of there. If you had the right support and monetary backing would it be feasible? It's got a few things going for it historically speaking i.e southernmost station (crowes) one of a small handful of NG lines etc.Again; my apologies for being abrupt. First; with money, and a lot of it, anything is feasible. This is, of course, provided there are people to do the work. It would take years, and there's no evidence of any group emerging. The railways that michaelgreenhill mentioned (Wahalla, PBR, VGR ) all have the advantage of being in well established tourist centres. I also suspect that chance of leasing anything from PBR would be extremely remote. You only need to look there on a six-train day to see how little, if any at all, would be available.
G'day Folks, just holidaying in the lovely Otways at the moment! I'm wondering if any thought has ever been given to restoration/re-laying of the Beech Forest to Crowes section if the old Beechy Line? It would certainly add to the tourism draw card in the area and probably get excellent patronage - especially if you started at Crowes to take advantage of the Great Ocean Rd traffic.
Thanks folks for your replies - it would certainly pose a lot of challenges (if not insurmountable ones). I didn't ride the trail - I'd almost completely consider the colac - beech forest section completely unavailable given the rail trail etc. the Beech Forest - Crowes section would be the most likely. I did visit the Crowes end (along with Beech Forest) - is the rolling stock you mention Brian the flatbed on the short section of track? It would be impossible to find a VR NG loco or carriages that PBR don't have I'd guess - you'd also need all new rail (there's not 22km of 30lb second hand laying around that i know of). Do you reckon there's much VR NG stuff left that hasn't been found yet? While we're dreaming lets rebuild G41 from scratch! Has anybody traced the formation from Beech Forest - Crowes? I hear its pretty messed up
The best you could realistically hope for, would be the development of the rail trail along a much of the former alinement as possible, but this could take decades to fully complete.
Some people on here seam to be opposed to rail trails, but the fact Is they are big tourist drawcards, preserve the rail corridor from development, community groups love to look after the vegetation within the former rail corridor and they become a major community asset.
Rail trails should be built along side existing railways In well populated and or scenic areas.
I'll look for your post Brian...You'll be wanting 'End of the Line, A history of the Beech Forest to Crowes extension railway 1911-1962' by Norman Houghton. You can buy it online from the LRRSA, http://www.lrrsa.org.au The book has extensive historical information, plus further info on what is still there today.
I'd be interested in anyone who has traced the Crowes- beech forest section
One of the issues with rail trails is the inability or difficulty in changing back to a train service. Governments like those in Victoria must love rail trails as they are a wonderful excuse to forget about rail transport in the area. :_)The bike/walking trail just gets moved to the side If a railway need to be re Installed, no big deal at all (just like a service relocation)
G'day Folks, just holidaying in the lovely Otways at the moment! I'm wondering if any thought has ever been given to restoration/re-laying of the Beech Forest to Crowes section if the old Beechy Line? It would certainly add to the tourism draw card in the area and probably get excellent patronage - especially if you started at Crowes to take advantage of the Great Ocean Rd traffic.:
One of the issues with rail trails is the inability or difficulty in changing back to a train service. Governments like those in Victoria must love rail trails as they are a wonderful excuse to forget about rail transport in the area. :_)
Looking at an old Melway the Emerald Lakeside - Gembrook railway was a walking trail before It was rebuilt as a tourist railway.
If you look a Maffra In Gippsland the rail corridor has all been gobbled up by private businesses, If a rail trail was put In the day after the tracks were pulled up, the rail corridor may still be In place.
So Brian you reckon Colac - Beech Forest would be more feasible than the 22km section to Crowes from Beech Forest? There'd certainly be a few issues to work through as some of the formation has been widened and made in to logging roads and I think one section is part of the re-alignment of the Lavers Hill - Beech Forest Rd so some bits wouldn't be able to follow the original formation completely and you'd have to negotiate with farmers etc. Would there still be a right of way reserve for the line?