SPC Canned Fruit Company is in trouble, like Holdens

 
  littleal9 Train Controller

Location: bellambi
Not too worried about who owns what brand name, to me where its made is more important, made in Australia equals Australian jobs no matter who owns it. Quality and flavour does matter,eg, I prefer local bread from our local "Vietnamese" bakery to the brand name or big store breads.
So long as the quality and flavour is up there, Australian made, whether from local and/or imported ingredients is what we use.

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  Braddo Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narre Warren
I also prefer the bread from the local Vietnamese bakery to that of the supermarkets, and that's including Abbots Village Bakery, Helga's, etc. Cheaper, fresher, and has a nicer crust in my opinion.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
I saw that someone said that SPC-Ardmona is owned by Coca Cola... well that's not actually true.

SPC is owned by Coca Cola Amatil (CCA), an Australian company listed on the Aust Stock Exchange, which is about 80% Australian owned, a far higher percentage of local ownership than most top 100 companies. In fact every person here is an indirect shareholder in CCA because every major super fund has shareholdings in it. CCA is one of the last major Australian food companies, so if you are interested in local jobs and in any profits staying in Australia, buy CCA products such as soft drinks, Berri branded drinks, as well as SPC, Ardmona and Goulburn Valley...

By contrast, retailers are much more likely to be Australian owned than food manufacturers. These companies are at least 75% locally owned, again most shares are held by super funds, so buying from them gives all of us a slightly wealthier retirement.

Woolworths. Woollies supermarkets, Big W discount department stores. Dan Murphys booze, 66% of Masters hardware, (the rest is owned by Yanks)

Wesfarmers. Coles Supermarkets, Kmart discount department stores, Bunnings hardware, Officeworks stationers, Target department stores, 1st Choice booze, Vintage Cellars, etc

Metcash. IGA supermarkets, Mitre 10 hardware, Autobarn, Cellarbrations, The Bottle-O.

David Jones. David Jones department stores

Myer. Myer department stores.

Harvey Norman. Furniture and electrical

Super Retail Group. Super Cheap Auto, BCF outdoors, Rays Outdoors, A-mart sports, Rebel Sports, Goldcross Cycles

Outside these major listed companies, there are a number of locally owned minor retailers which your super fund may or may not have share holidngs in. But many big retailers like Aldi [and Dick Smith I got that one wrong] are foreign owned.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
But many big retailers like Aldi and Dick Smith are foreign owned.
Bogong

Dick Smith is not foreign-owned.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Dick Smith was until a while back owned by Woolworths, but was sold off to a management buy out I think it was.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

DSE was sold by Woolworths in 2012, 98% to a private equity firm and 2% to the board members. It is now publicly listed as of five weeks ago, the ASX code is DSH.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
DSE was sold by Woolworths in 2012, 98% to a private equity firm and 2% to the board members. It is now publicly listed as of five weeks ago, the ASX code is DSH.
justapassenger

They did really well out of that float, Woolies must be kicking themselves - they practically gave the business away.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
They did really well out of that float, Woolies must be kicking themselves - they practically gave the business away.
don_dunstan

Well really all they gave away was Big W's electrical section really. I went into DSE years back when it was owned by Woolworths and the guy in there said to buy whatever I wanted from Big W as it was cheaper there. He was right and I did buy it from Big W. Not bad considering it would have all come from the same store place that handled all the stuff for Woolworths like this!

Woolworths absolutely raped DSE though and in the end it was just a mere shadow of what it once was. Just another electrical store like all the rest of them.
  Braddo Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narre Warren
Woolworths absolutely raped DSE though and in the end it was just a mere shadow of what it once was. Just another electrical store like all the rest of them.
David Peters

You're not wrong. DSE used to be an amazing place, now it's just another Harvey Norman. An absolute shame.
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
You're not wrong. DSE used to be an amazing place, now it's just another Harvey Norman. An absolute shame.
Braddo

I remember when DSE used to be like Jaycar (just not quite as good).
Then one day some twit decided to make it like Tandy Electronics was, and consequently it went to the dogs.
Fad gadgets and cheap imported crap - nothing more!

As for SPC, we should be supporting local product. Historically though Aussies couldn't give a stuff where something was made, or about supporting local industry. Its the greed mentality where where consumers all want the lowest price, and the boss wants maximum profit.
Consequences be damned, and the consequences are the kids jobs in local industry etc down the track. No one takes on apprentices anymore, we union bust the high wages by giving the work to imposters on 457 visas, or at best we send the jobs overseas. Been to a construction site lately and seen who the plasterers and cleaners are predoninantly now have you??

And the real kicker - we Aussies are the ones doing it. Purely for the greed and profit now, and stuff the jobs for the future. Others do it overseas sure, but WE do it here and we pay for that.

Regards

PS. As for Holden - if you don't own an Aussie made car, IMHO you've no right to the arguement supporting it. Thats because you're part of the problem. The same goes for buying the SPC product.
  a6et Minister for Railways

I remember when DSE used to be like Jaycar (just not quite as good).
Then one day some twit decided to make it like Tandy Electronics was, and consequently it went to the dogs.
Fad gadgets and cheap imported crap - nothing more!

As for SPC, we should be supporting local product. Historically though Aussies couldn't give a stuff where something was made, or about supporting local industry. Its the greed mentality where where consumers all want the lowest price, and the boss wants maximum profit.
Consequences be damned, and the consequences are the kids jobs in local industry etc down the track. No one takes on apprentices anymore, we union bust the high wages by giving the work to imposters on 457 visas, or at best we send the jobs overseas. Been to a construction site lately and seen who the plasterers and cleaners are predoninantly now have you??

And the real kicker - we Aussies are the ones doing it. Purely for the greed and profit now, and stuff the jobs for the future. Others do it overseas sure, but WE do it here and we pay for that.

Regards

PS. As for Holden - if you don't own an Aussie made car, IMHO you've no right to the arguement supporting it. Thats because you're part of the problem. The same goes for buying the SPC product.
davesvline

What would you expect in regard to fad gadgets etc? After that was how Tricky Dicky made his money, & established his wealth. In the early 60's the first of the Oz host shows, or one of them was the Mike Walsh show aired during the housewife's hours like the stupid US creep shows of today.

Dick Smith had a segment at least once a week that featured a table full of the latest Japanese gadgets in the electrical market including the gimmicks of the day, he was showcasing them but I forget where they were sold in Oz. It was those humble beginnings that he developed his brand, importing cheap Japanese stuff, & as Asia moved up with other stuff from Korea & the like so did his empire. Not sure where the Tandy stores fitted in but they became a combined entity but still trading under their own brands, not surprisingly though the two stores sold the same products in many areas, with Tandy being the cheapest.  

Tandy closed up as the larger Dick Smith outlets opened & in the centres where the two operated, the Tandy store closed & merged, but at locations where there was no Dick Smith, Tandy was rebranded prior to the Woolworths takeover.  

Once the business was sold & he became just a shareholder with a higher profile his name now in lights & well known, he entered the buy Australia campaign & became all but anti all things overseas, after making his name & fortune selling primarily O/Seas items made in Asian countries.

I refuse to buy his products in a supermarket owing to the premium price that is place on them, & that is over other Australian made & sometimes owned products.

The car industry here when the GFC hit, especially GMH & FORD, paid money to their corporate entities in the US, in fact I read where even though the U.S government paid both of them millions + in bail outs, both Australian entities actually made money, & it was the Australian factories that provided the only real good news for the two companies, now that the US subsidies have run out, & has sucked the Australian industry dry of the money that could have helped them survive building cars here, they close the factories.

We say our costs are too high, yet what are the wages paid to the Japanese assembly line workers at their main brands? It was shown in previous years & while much has changed but workers at the likes of Toyota were paid far more than the equivilent workers here, not only that but they had a lot more bonuses, such as with company cars at cost price, as well as paid holidays, to such places as Australia, go back to the 60's & 70's when Japanese tourism especially to the Gold Coast was gaining momentum & grew, the tourists in the main were company employees including lowly assembly line workers. Also the Japanese stevedores enjoyed far better conditions than those of their Australian counterparts.

Australian land has been sold off to so many o/seas companies & government controlled agencies, that when the Oz owned companies that are left close & the farms are shut down owing to no canneries & the like left, these farms will be sold to overseas interests with their own people gaining the benefits, more than likely the farms will open again, with foreign workers, likewise the factories will return with the same immigrant workers, the products will go back to the countries that owns them, & we will pay to import them back.

Thankfully it will not happen in my time but its not that far off really.

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