Austrains G Class Diesel Loco - Upcoming 81 / G / BL

 
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

Anzac - if you look at the post by Dazz further up the page you'll see a link to letter sent by Austrains to customers.

DazzThis might cause some chatter!!!!!


"tuscan 81 along with a few other models won’t be available in this run. Nor will sound locos (sound now unlikely to happen). Full details in the pre-order confirmation letter that is starting to make its way into peoples hands.

A scan of the letter can be found at:
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1506585_10151607743487325_225978998_n.jpg

Amongst other things it advises that several schemes (including NR for 81s and BLs) have been delayed until a production run later in the year. So you should still get them in NR! Very Happy

Cheers,
wat700

There might be several schemes which are delayed but this still doesn't explain why the NR versions aren't on the BL Order Form.

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  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
There might be several schemes which are delayed but this still doesn't explain why the NR versions aren't on the BL Order Form.
kingfisher

The order forms now on the Austrains website represent the models that will be arriving in the February.
  Titfield Locomotive Fireman

Maybe not owned by PN any more, but it did wear the PN livery for a while before being sold to SCT.

Not my photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lowndesj515/7693412624/
Greensleeves

Thanks for the pic. I'm happy to be wrong on this one and must say I did not ever see it wear the liver prior to the sale. Can anyone tell me exactly when it received the livery.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Thanks for the pic. I'm happy to be wrong on this one and must say I did not ever see it wear the liver prior to the sale. Can anyone tell me exactly when it received the livery.
Titfield

G532 was painted in PN blue/yellow in Jan/Feb 2006.
  Titfield Locomotive Fireman

G532 was painted in PN blue/yellow in Jan/Feb 2006.

Thanks. It was sold to SCT in March 2007 and repainted soon after during it's conversion to SG. It looks like it carried this livery for only 14 months whilst in broad gauge. Seems like an odd one to select to model in this livery. Perhaps they should have picked a unit which carried the livery for a much longer period. I guess the sales figures will tell a story.
  CLF6 Station Master

Hi all

Just wondered if anyone in-the-know, knew if Austrains still have plans to produce a QR National G class in a later run? I'd send them an email but I'm sure they're being inundated with enough mail as is.

Cheers
John
  Btone Locomotive Fireman

I'd be interested to see if there's any info on this too; I know austrains have an aversion to anything modem but I would have thought there would be some serious $$ in doing a run of all the modern G classes
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
I do remember seeing it on their page a small number of years back and asked the question when placing my order, however, he declined in that they weren't anymore. Still anything is possible and the demand is their, as seen with the Xs and CLPs. He would also required permission as he would be using their colour scheme and that could be a hassle.
  Railwayfan Train Controller

Location: By a Railway
Thanks. It was sold to SCT in March 2007 and repainted soon after during it's conversion to SG. It looks like it carried this livery for only 14 months whilst in broad gauge. Seems like an odd one to select to model in this livery. Perhaps they should have picked a unit which carried the livery for a much longer period. I guess the sales figures will tell a story.
Titfield

Agree, although rivet counters might change the numbers to fit, afterall their model so they will do it to suit (and no I don't have a problem with this for those who will judge). Still, the model has come up well.
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

I guess there are a few interesting liveries we can see on all the releases....
I'd be interested if an SSR G Class might get done but considering that Auscision have a connection with that company its probably unlikely.
  Iain Chief Commissioner

Location: Concord, NSW
Here is 8112 at Newcastle showing an interesting mixture of liveries and repairs (image taken 29th January 2014)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7892196@N02/12212122676/
  AustinNichols Station Master

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Xd8d9TLaDg/UutFiuB6siI/AAAAAAAAD2o/i1_86iSNX8w/s1600/IMG_4356.JPG

why is the gap too big here between the engine and the ground.
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

After looking at that picture - it does indeed seem a little high.
Hope we don't see another Austrains 421 issue when there the loco rode too low now this one could suffer from too high!!

Lets hope some more shots come to light to clarify....
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

After looking at that picture - it does indeed seem a little high.
Hope we don't see another Austrains 421 issue when there the loco rode too low now this one could suffer from too high!!

Lets hope some more shots come to light to clarify....
5711

Might be the very reason for the absence of photos on the Austrains website.
  grahmanson Beginner

Does anyone know when these modals will be released ?

It's been like more than 2 years since I ordered and paid for one Evil or Very Mad
Nightfire

March 2014
  Toolman Station Staff

Location: Downunder
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Xd8d9TLaDg/UutFiuB6siI/AAAAAAAAD2o/i1_86iSNX8w/s1600/IMG_4356.JPG

why is the gap too big here between the engine and the ground.
AustinNichols

I bought a FA one and it has the same gap between the bogie and underfloor, when viewed at wheel level. Against a Kadee coupler height gauge, the coupler height is about right. Those shiny plates behind the bogies of all Austrains locos look dreadful, something which has always been there it seems, on all their locos. Viewed from roof level however it isn't noticeable. A lick of paint might help?
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
.... I know austrains have an aversion to anything modem ...
Btone

Confused For the first decade most of its locos were modern era. Shortly after the NR was released I queried  JE about doing that model. His response was basically that he knew it would do well just like the Powerline 81. How many reruns since Wink
... but I would have thought there would be some serious $$ in doing a run of all the modern G classes
Btone

As a limited run perhaps but as money makers I doubt it. People typically buy several locos in the common schemes, less do so for exotic (collectible?) ones and when there's no price difference they don't make a greater profit.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
I bought a FA one and it has the same gap between the bogie and underfloor, when viewed at wheel level. Against a Kadee coupler height gauge, the coupler height is about right. Those shiny plates behind the bogies of all Austrains locos look dreadful, something which has always been there it seems, on all their locos. Viewed from roof level however it isn't noticeable. A lick of paint might help?
Toolman
The entire bogie looks undersized - check the air gaps to the sides, as well as above.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
The entire bogie looks undersized - check the air gaps to the sides, as well as above.
michaelgreenhill

I just put the G beside the 422 and the bogies look just fine!
The height matches the 422 and I cannot find my brass G to compare...  Someone else?
But the bottom edge of the G body is 1.5 mm higher than 422. If that's wrong then the car body is reduced in height, which I doubt. Whilst mine is apart I am going to paint everything dirty black Smile
Cheers
Rod
  allambi_mk2 Locomotive Fireman

Location: South Yarra, Victoria
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Xd8d9TLaDg/UutFiuB6siI/AAAAAAAAD2o/i1_86iSNX8w/s1600/IMG_4356.JPG

why is the gap too big here between the engine and the ground.
AustinNichols

Looks like a Powerline G from this side.
  allambi_mk2 Locomotive Fireman

Location: South Yarra, Victoria
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Xd8d9TLaDg/UutFiuB6siI/AAAAAAAAD2o/i1_86iSNX8w/s1600/IMG_4356.JPG

why is the gap too big here between the engine and the ground.
AustinNichols

Looks like a Powerline G from this side.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
Looking at the pic of G220, my first impression is that the side sill is too high, and the filled in chassis around the fuel and air tanks is awful. The Powerline G was better in that area. There should be daylight above the fuel tank with the engine sump visible in silhouette.


That is a Powerline BL with the fuel and air tank area rebuilt to be more realistic. Auscision has done this on the non valanced B and A class. Not hard to do.
The radiator section appears to be almost the same height as the rest of the roofline making the fans stand too high.
Has anyone noticed a bit of a discrepancy or two in the VR paint scheme compared to the original model it was supposed to be based on? See it in this thread about have way down the page. http://www.railpage.com.au/f-p1769459.htm Glad I didn't bother to order that one, though I've ordered 8101. Hoping he hasn't changed that one, or mine will go into the workshop for a conversion to as built appearance leaving 199 in the world.
The dynamic brake grill looks a little narrow in height.
I think the roof steps on the B end cab were added to 1st series Gs a fair while after they were built, not a mistake but it's a bit like the decision not to do as built 81 models.

On the up side, it looks like the first time an Austrains model will have correct looking bogie frames!
In my opinion, these won't be the JT26-2SS models to show his old foe at powerline just how it's done after all. Perhaps technically better but not a big leap over it as promised.

End rant,
Matt.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Xd8d9TLaDg/UutFiuB6siI/AAAAAAAAD2o/i1_86iSNX8w/s1600/IMG_4356.JPG

why is the gap too big here between the engine and the ground.
AustinNichols

A courtesy note quoting the source of this picture would have been appropriate. Better still the full link to the associated article that contains relevant information & more pictures of the model. http://barcoola.blogspot.com.au/
  M636C Minister for Railways


But the bottom edge of the G body is 1.5 mm higher than 422. If that's wrong then the car body is reduced in height, which I doubt.
Cheers
Rod
comtrain

Do you mean the body of the 422 or the 422 frame which projects below the body?

The 422 body side started considerably higher than that of the G. This was because the 422 had a cowl type body on an underframe which allowed the fitting of staff exchangers more easily than the load bearing body used in the AL, BL and G.

This was obvious if a G&W 22 was coupled to an ALF, because the bottom black stripe of the 22 almost lined up with the upper black stripe of the ALF.

M636C
  AustinNichols Station Master

A courtesy note quoting the source of this picture would have been appropriate. Better still the full link to the associated article that contains relevant information & more pictures of the model. http://barcoola.blogspot.com.au/
Poath Junction

Apologgies for not crediting your site dude. The old man spoke with his mate in Melbourne today and found out that's the buffer part is too high. Between the coupler and the ribbed bits is too much which pushes the body up above the wheels, they all look like he said.

Not sure how too fix it yet.

Relax with trains.

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