PL carriages order form (only for those without an aversion to pre-ordering) : http://www.austrains.com.au/orderforms/of_pl_series_passenger.pdf
Just wondering if anyone's able to clarify which livery the PL carriages will be supplied in (Crimson Lake vs. Bright Red)?
I ordered set 1 and set 3 And I must admit I presumed as livery was not mentioned, they would be the red as they finished in service. I do hope they are NOT Crimson Email off to Austrains, but I suspect that their is simply not enough people out there to support the early colour considering it will cost an importer many thousands extra for each color change? I think they use highly accurate per-coloured plastic in the moldings these days?
(Note to self, don't type when you don't fell well!)
1. I've fixed my buffer heads, a slight twist to ease off the pressure is all that's needed.
2. Truss posts and truss rods appear to be glued/welded together so maybe not so easy to fix the slight alignment issue. They're fairly well hidden behind the steps so not a major visual issue.
3. Those brake shoe rods are a nightmare to re-insert! While doing that I had a close look at the bogie and can see it's been designed quite cleverly, and therein was the problem of my escaping rods - there's a basic bogie that determines the wheelbase & holds the axle, then a second assembly that has the springs, axle box, brakeshoes, etc. This would make it very simple (from a manufacturing perspective) to make bogies with modified features without going through the hassle of making a whole bogie, all they have to tool up is a new cosmetic sideframe (springs and axel box). This method also allows the springs and axle box to be made a lot thinner (prototypically accurate) as they're not load bearing. In my problem bogie that second assembly was probably pushed out of place when the model went into the box with its devilishly hard to close plastic liner, I could see the outer (cosmetic) frame was bent allowing the brake shoe rods to fall from their mounting lugs. A quick poke got the bogie all square as should be, which in turn now made it hard to reinsert the fallen rods!
Years back, in our club magazine 'Train Talk' (Darling Downs Model Railway Club Inc.), I made a statement about desired details "Be careful what you wish for - YOU MAY JUST GET!"
Seems that threshold is being surpassed!
I totally agree. While I like detail, I believe that the quality is of first importance, the flimsy plastic & delrin stuff, the later of which is fine for many items such as the boilers & tender bodies, has its limits owing to the fact of trying to glue the rotten things back on, & if broken toss it, at least old plastics could be glued.
While the stuff I mention for inside the LHG, would be nice, I am not worried too much about that either, but the appropriate seating & wall would be ok. My belief is that the amount of underfloor detail is only needed based on what can be reasonably easy to see when the model is stationary at approximately arms length from me, also looking down on it at angle that is roughly at the sternum height of the average male. If I cannot see it at that angle, its not needed.
After speaking to a producer a couple of years back at the brickpit where we spoke of the detail & cost, he said that the situation is in China now, it does not cost extra to add the detail, as against not having it. I can therefore understand if that's the case why not put all the bells etc on the models, personally I would rather quality of quantity especialy with the couplers.
Having just completed some mods on early wagons, I had to replace several old couplers with Kadees as they had started to show some failings.
I suppose if it costs nothing to have the detail added then most certainly it should be included. We would be going backwards without it. If your not fussed on having models detailed to that level and the detail parts do fall off then you will not have to worry about sticking it back on.
I agree, materials are being pushed to the limits i.e. plastics are being used in very thin sections and the models are becoming less robust. I guess that's why I love brass steam locomotives as the fine detail and body sections are handle resistant.
I think before anything the basic dimensions and features of the model should be correct. Something that is sometimes lacking.
"especially if its an item that comes from the bowels of the model, & I am not referring to having working dunnies on them either."
Ha ha great Col!
I think brass models are a lot more robust. If I pick up my brass 422 there is no chance of snapping off the air reservoir tank. The plastic version broke within one hour of handling.
The latest plastic 38 side valances flex and squeak when picked up. It felt very flimsy. The brass one is rock solid and when it runs it seems like it weighs 200 ton.
I don't think I have ever broken a detail off a brass loco. No I am wrong, I have had some buffers and valance steps fall off. It's all easily fixed though and ends up as good as new.
Of course. We need to have some compromise as the model needs to operate in a greatly condensed environment. It's things like wood grain that looks like petrified wood that make a good model look terrible.
I suppose this is all a little off topic.
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