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      EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

    Location: On my office roof.
    Sunday before last they were all still there at UGL. No decals on 001 - 003, and 004 was still in undercoat. Also, the unwanted GWU was still hiding up the at back of the pack in undercoat.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2013 21:41

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      Shacks Ghanzel

    Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
    The first two 93's of the current order were out test running last week. There was a C44 frame heading through Hexham on a truck last Thursday, and another on Monday of this week. It's highly unlikely that there were only two other frames on the production line at Broadmeadow. So are there more C44's to follow after the last 93?
    EFB5800
    Interesting that you saw it at Hexham, the frames are made at Forgacs in Carrington. Which way was it traveling ?
    Posted: 24 Oct 2013 02:28
      EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

    Location: On my office roof.
    Both frames were southbound, near the Shell servo area, upside down on long trailers. Painted all over black as normal. I was in Forgacs a couple of weeks ago, didn't know they were built there, or I would of had look for them!
    Also early this week, I saw an overhauled C44 type bogie on a semi coming through Jesmond on Newcastle road, heading city bound. Where would this be coming from?
    Posted: 24 Oct 2013 17:12
      Shacks Ghanzel

    Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
    Maybe the frames were stored at one of their other yards, they have a yard in Hexham and another in Tomago. As for the bogie, I see them in that area frequently, but would have no idea where they are coming from.
    Posted: 24 Oct 2013 17:36
      Junction box Chief Commissioner

    Location: newy
    What does CRL stand for and does anyone know what their use will be?
    Posted: 25 Oct 2013 12:00
      Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Dalby Qld
    What does CRL stand for and does anyone know what their use will be?
    Junction box
    CRL stands for a number of things, but in this context it is Consolidated Rail Leasing. Even though these locomotives appear on their website, it has been asserted here that they will not be going to CRL. I guess we'll just have to wait and see where they end up...
    Posted: 25 Oct 2013 13:13
      Shacks Ghanzel
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 11:57

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      Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

    Thanks for putting these up Shacks, looks like the PowerHauls are go.
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 13:00
      Michelle12 Moderator Photo Overlord

    Location: Melbourne
    You didn't wreck your camera while photographing these? They are ugly.
    On a serious note, will this become the standard GE/UGL cab just like the NRs that cloned and cloned?
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 13:33
      jmt Deputy Commissioner

    You didn't wreck your camera while photographing these? They are ugly.
    Michelle12
    An improvement on the Freightliners in Pommy Land

    http://www.modelrailforum.com/images/Bachmann/PowerHaul-Unveiling-Pro-1024.jpg
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 17:44
      Spiritman Train Controller

    Location: Camden, NSW
    An improvement on the Freightliners in Pommy Land

    http://www.modelrailforum.com/images/Bachmann/PowerHaul-Unveiling-Pro-1024.jpg
    jmt
    LOL I agree, those pommy locos are ug-gleeee. I don't find our NR clones too distasteful..but that's only my opinion.

    Dare I ask what a "hotty" loco might look like? Wink
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 19:18
      Junction box Chief Commissioner

    Location: newy
    They look like they are really made out of plywood, any specs on these available?
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 19:59
      jmt Deputy Commissioner

    They look like they are really made out of plywood, any specs on these available?
    Junction box
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerHaul_%28locomotive%29

    Weight will alter between gauge and country

    No photos have surfaced yet of the Hyundai prototypes

    This is the Turkish UIC 505-1 profile for Europe http://www.mainlinediesels.net/images/basic/TLMGE_004_51.jpg
    Turks are also building UK profile http://www.mainlinediesels.net/images/basic/ge_70099_12.jpg
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 22:26

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      M636C Minister for Railways

    You didn't wreck your camera while photographing these? They are ugly.
    On a serious note, will this become the standard GE/UGL cab just like the NRs that cloned and cloned?
    Michelle12

    Since this cab is built to the QR NG loading gauge, it seems unlikely that it would be used on standard gauge locomotives since it would be smaller and more cramped internally. UGL might design a new standard gauge cab based on this one but I'd expect they'd keep using the one they have,

    This new UGL cab isn't significantly uglier than the Downer GT42CU-AC cab (and shares the flat windscreens).

    M636C
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 23:40
      ed31880 Train Controller

    Does anyone know if the Aurizon liveried CRL's have entered service yet?
    Posted: 29 Dec 2013 17:56
      EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

    Location: On my office roof.
    Today at UGL, CRL002 is still in Aurizon paint, but has the hand rails removed at the moment.
    There is a banana undercoated C44ACi with empty number boxes out in the yard. It has yellow railings, noise shield and radiator screens. It may be a former Aurizon painted CRL being repainted perhaps?
    Another banana undercoated C44 is out the front with work hand rails fitted, judging by the rust stains under the railings I'd say it's the one that has been there a few weeks.
    GWU010 is still in undercoat with work hand rails fitted as it has been for a long time.

    Cheers, Matt.
    Posted: 10 Mar 2014 16:33
      DBclass Chief Commissioner

    Location: Western Australia
    Dare I ask what a "hotty" loco might look like? Wink
    Spiritman

    Like this IMO :

    http://www.railheritagewa.org.au/archive_scans/displayimage.php?pid=4651
    Posted: 10 Mar 2014 17:21

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      Shacks Ghanzel

    Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
    There are 2 or 3 of the UGL's in the yard too. Seams to be nothing much happening there at the moment. Things don't move for weeks on end.
    Posted: 11 Mar 2014 08:02
      Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

    Thanks for the update and photos here & on Flickr.  Smile

    Is there much 3' 6" track in Goninans facility ?  I'm guessing where they will base these locos when road trials begin , , , maybe Townsville QLD ? ? ?
    "GS4"


    I haven't heard anything official, but delivery to UGL Bohle (Townsville) seems the most likely next step for these locos. Townsville is the base for the Aurizon and PN locos used on the North Coast and Mt Isa lines and is only a stone's throw away (200km) from Pring where heavy haul DP coal testing could also be carried out against the 4100s. At the moment I'm presuming UGL will wait until all three are ready and then road haul them to Townsville...but that's just my speculation.
    Posted: 12 Mar 2014 16:25

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      Shacks Ghanzel

    Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
    The only NG track appears to be in the production shed and in the test area.
    Posted: 12 Mar 2014 19:00
      Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

    I see GE is going to build the Evolution Series ES40ACi for South Africa...I wonder if this will impact on the PowerHaul project locally?
    Posted: 18 Mar 2014 07:35
      jmt Deputy Commissioner

    I see GE is going to build the Evolution Series ES40ACi for South Africa...I wonder if this will impact on the PowerHaul project locally?
    Sulla1

    233 units in the GE order

    Looks like GE have squeezed the 12 cylinder GEVO into the 3'6" loading gauge, weight in SA press reports is said to be 130 tonnes
    Posted: 18 Mar 2014 13:19
      Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

    233 units in the GE order

    Looks like GE have squeezed the 12 cylinder GEVO into the 3'6" loading gauge, weight in SA press reports is said to be 130 tonnes
    "jmt"


    If the long hood is low enough to squeeze into the QR/Aurizon loading gauges then it will be better competition to the proposed GT46CU-ACe than a 3700hp PowerHaul. Another wait and see.
    Posted: 18 Mar 2014 20:03
      jmt Deputy Commissioner

    If the long hood is low enough to squeeze into the QR/Aurizon loading gauges then it will be better competition to the proposed GT46CU-ACe than a 3700hp PowerHaul. Another wait and see.
    Sulla1

    Transnet has maximum width of 3,048 mm (10 ft) and maximum height of 3,962 mm (13 ft). South African main trunk lines (except for heavy haul mineral corridors) had an axle weight of 21 tonnes, however the proposed ES40ACi is quoted in the GE press release as 130 tonnes, so axle weight may be creeping up to 22 tonnes
    http://www.gereports.com/post/79828315397/let-the-train-blow-the-vuvuzela-south-africas

    Heavy haul mineral routes can be as high as 29.5 tonnes per axle
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sishen%E2%80%93Saldanha_railway_line
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Class_15E
    Posted: 18 Mar 2014 21:27

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      Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

    The 3800s have already gone past the 130-tonne mark so that should be acceptable, and to be honest, adhesive weights really should push past 140-tonnes to take advantage of the additional horsepower. The current 26.5-tonne axle load on the Aurizon coal lines could allow for a loco up to 159-tonnes now.
    Posted: 18 Mar 2014 22:55

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