DPTI behind the times

 
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Yeah, I was going to post earlier but never got around to it. I went to see today what you mean about the line names under the TVs on the concourse deck. My eye sight is very good, even if I sometimes doubt it, I struggled a bit, but could read the screens from the Nth Tce side of the escalators, I acknowledge few would be so lucky. Backlighting may not be the answer, but a larger font would probably suffice.

I think the screens could be improved, there is some unneeded information taking up valuable real estate. For example, standing on the concourse looking at the screens for each line I don't believe I need the times for the next three departures. Eliminating those times could improve the sizing of the platform number and the time of the next departure, surely among the most important info. The other thing that may help, though granted perhaps not for regular users would be to colour code the screen background to the line colour on route maps and timetables.

I agree with the 'standardised' platforming, this and colour coding work very well at Central in NSW where after the first trip there I knew for the rest of the week where my train would be departing. First arrival there, look for the line, follow the colour and every train was departing platform 25, every time, every day, we were able to literally auto pilot it through Central each trip. NO HOPE of that in Adelaide! Not even the drivers know ahead of time where they are boarding their trains on departing services...

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  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Yeah, I was going to post earlier but never got around to it. I went to see today what you mean about the line names under the TVs on the concourse deck. My eye sight is very good, even if I sometimes doubt it, I struggled a bit, but could read the screens from the Nth Tce side of the escalators, I acknowledge few would be so lucky. Backlighting may not be the answer, but a larger font would probably suffice.

I think the screens could be improved, there is some unneeded information taking up valuable real estate. For example, standing on the concourse looking at the screens for each line I don't believe I need the times for the next three departures. Eliminating those times could improve the sizing of the platform number and the time of the next departure, surely among the most important info. The other thing that may help, though granted perhaps not for regular users would be to colour code the screen background to the line colour on route maps and timetables.

I agree with the 'standardised' platforming, this and colour coding work very well at Central in NSW where after the first trip there I knew for the rest of the week where my train would be departing. First arrival there, look for the line, follow the colour and every train was departing platform 25, every time, every day, we were able to literally auto pilot it through Central each trip. NO HOPE of that in Adelaide! Not even the drivers know ahead of time where they are boarding their trains on departing services...
Aaron

Yes I have to agree with you Aaron there is a lot of unnecessary info on these screens. And colour coding them to the colours on a PT map would help not only tourists but first time uses of PT as well. But knowing Adelaide Metro and how much sense that you make in your post probably will go over Adelaide Metro's heads more than anything. They don't seem to want to do anything really that can help the general public or cattle. Anything that helps movement should at least be considered, I mean it is not going to cost anything for someone to change the background colour and font colour so it is more easily distinguished.

The next departures could be displayed on a separate screen if needed at all, or simply use the dot matrix things to display the next set of departures under the appropriate screen. Easy enough to do it!
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
1: .... a larger font would probably suffice....I think the screens could be improved, there is some unneeded information taking up valuable real estate. ...I don't believe I need the times for the next three departures. Eliminating those times could improve the sizing of the platform number and the time of the next departure, surely among the most important info.

2: I agree with the 'standardised' platforming, this and colour coding work very well at Central in NSW....
Aaron

1: We concur on all of the above. There is, however, a route name of quite readable size under the screens and I think that each is colour coded, but against the brightness of the displays they are quite hard to discern in a hurry – and that is what matters to travellers running for the first available train. Similar backlit and colour coded ones would be fairly cheap to install.

2: Melbourne also has 'memory' platforms for trains leaving the city on the same inner suburban route until they diverge to their destinations.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
1: We concur on all of the above. There is, however, a route name of quite readable size under the screens and I think that each is colour coded, but against the brightness of the displays they are quite hard to discern in a hurry – and that is what matters to travellers running for the first available train. Similar backlit and colour coded ones would be fairly cheap to install.

2: Melbourne also has 'memory' platforms for trains leaving the city on the same inner suburban route until they diverge to their destinations.
"SAR526"
The labels under the screens are coloured, but I did not look to see if they were coded against the route map, I presume they are, but hey, this is AdMet...
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Yeah, I was going to post earlier but never got around to it. I went to see today what you mean about the line names under the TVs on the concourse deck. My eye sight is very good, even if I sometimes doubt it, I struggled a bit, but could read the screens from the Nth Tce side of the escalators, I acknowledge few would be so lucky. Backlighting may not be the answer, but a larger font would probably suffice.
"Aaron"
In my experience the weather is a major factor in the readability there - if it is bright outside at the opposite end of the concourse they will be very difficult to read as the fluoro backlights in the LCD screens simply can't compete with even indirect sunlight.

Replacement of the small LCD flat screens with a large multi-coloured LED matrix with the destination name on the matrix display rather than a non-lit sign underneath would make it more readable in all conditions. The leftover flat screens could be dispersed around to provide more information at the station entrances.

The labels under the screens are coloured, but I did not look to see if they were coded against the route map, I presume they are, but hey, this is AdMet...
"Aaron"
Adelaide Metro does not know what the Gawler line is supposed to be. The rail network map has it in a dark maroon colour, the current printed timetable has it in blue. What is it at the stations?
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

I believe they have changed the colour coding for the lines again.

Before the rail network upgrade it was

Belair = Green
Noarlunga = Blue
Gawler = Brown
Outer Harbor = Purple

now its

Belair = Green
Seaford = Orange
Gawler = Maroon
Outer Harbor = Blue

I much preferred the old colour coding because the colours for the lines reflected on their location.

Brown being dirt/sand is associated with the North
Blue being ocean and blue is often associated with being cooler which occurs when you go South
Green for the trees and hills for the East
Purple for the industrial buildings for the West.

Those colours for the lines actually made logical sense now they make no sense at all.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Those colours for the lines actually made logical sense now they make no sense at all.
"Milkomeda"
Not only that, but if you look at the current network map you'll see there is absolutely no consistency at all.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Brown being dirt/sand is associated with the North
"Milkomeda"
That'll make you popular... I think Gawler is still brown coloured on the concourse screen labels.
  torrens5022 Junior Train Controller

At the refurbished Gawler line stations the colour is red. It's nicer then brown.
The colours are,
Gawler - Red
Seaford - Orange
Belair - Green
Outer Harbor and Grange - Purple (I think) or is it Blue now
I'm going by the new/refurbished stations - I haven't seen St Clair yet so don't know what colour it is.
  torrens5022 Junior Train Controller

Gawler is more likely maroon, did a google image search of Chidda and it looks red when sunny and maroon when cloudy
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I have a lot to do with a major "processing" plant out at Bolivar, I was associating brown with something else.Laughing
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
I have a lot to do with a major "processing" plant out at Bolivar, I was associating brown with something else.Laughing
steam4ian

What about 'NONE OF THE ABOVE', particularly Bolivar? Stations in quite small cities in Europe have rapid fire mechanical displays that are fascinating to watch and are very informative at the same time. I have videoed some of them, e.g. in Toulouse. The clicking draws attention to the changes. They are modern versions of the manually changed colourful backlit displays of perforated sheets that once informed us on the concourse of Adelaide Station, and are far superior to video screens.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
St Clair is painted a light blue colour. It is as far as I know the only colour coded station on the line!
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Peterhead is painted purple and repainted most weeks. Alberton shelter is purple, Bowden shelter is blue. Must stay awake next trip and check the rest.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Ooooooops Port Adelaide is blue too.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Peterhead is painted purple and repainted most weeks. Alberton shelter is purple, Bowden shelter is blue. Must stay awake next trip and check the rest.
62440

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This is the colour scheme of the attractive buildings at Peterhead, freshly painted. (I used the edit feature to remove the graffiti which is why it looks odd)
I stayed awake, Port Adelaide has the blue signs as does St Clair. All others are purple except the heritage buildings at Alberton and Bowden and the shelters at Woodville..

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