ElecRail Farewell Hitachi Train Tour - April 12th

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
If the vandals can be caught in the act, it is particularly effective to use their own spray cans to paint them from head to foot - hair, clothes, the lot.  I saw it done early one morning at one particular preservation site, and you can guarantee that the perpetrators never returned. Two vandals and five site workers stacked the odds nicely. The vandals presented a colourful sight when they were finally invited to, "go home and tell your mother where you got that, you little ba$tard"

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  Pcess7 Station Master

Spaeh that's such a shame. I forgot to add - during a stop, some passengers went out and bought eggs and flour and then proceeded to throw it out the window at vandals while we were stopped at Essendon. And what was the result? The vandals retaliated by throwing rocks at the train and we were then advised to keep the windows closed for the remainder of the trip just in case of further attacks. Thanks guys! Half the fun of riding these trains is having the windows open. So incredibly pathetic and childish. I was just as outraged as the next person about people vandalising the train, but whatever happened to safety first and conflict resolution... Lol some guys were acting like they were having some sort of psychotic mental attack screaming and spitting out every curse word imaginable. Anyway, it was a fairly enjoyable day prior to arriving at Essendon and I'm sad that I'll never get to ride these again Sad
  ogigacz Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Spaeh that's such a shame. I forgot to add - during a stop, some passengers went out and bought eggs and flour and then proceeded to throw it out the window at vandals while we were stopped at Essendon. And what was the result? The vandals retaliated by throwing rocks at the train and we were then advised to keep the windows closed for the remainder of the trip just in case of further attacks. Thanks guys! Half the fun of riding these trains is having the windows open. So incredibly pathetic and childish. I was just as outraged as the next person about people vandalising the train, but whatever happened to safety first and conflict resolution... Lol some guys were acting like they were having some sort of psychotic mental attack screaming and spitting out every curse word imaginable. Anyway, it was a fairly enjoyable day prior to arriving at Essendon and I'm sad that I'll never get to ride these again Sad
Pcess7


So there was a second vandal attack at Essendon?
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
i hope someone calls 3AW on monday about this
  Pcess7 Station Master

Yes there was more vandalism at Essendon - graffiti on the side and back of the last car and rock throwing, and attempts to get in the back cabin. The passengers reacted very aggressively to this and although I understand the anger (I was angry too), it was quite scary to witness people's over the top reactions. The rocks were only thrown in retaliation to passengers throwing things at the vandals and police had already been called and were on the way. We were stopped at Essendon for a considerable amount of time because of the situation.
  501M Train Controller

Location: The Borough
Spaeh that's such a shame. I forgot to add - during a stop, some passengers went out and bought eggs and flour and then proceeded to throw it out the window at vandals while we were stopped at Essendon. And what was the result? The vandals retaliated by throwing rocks at the train and we were then advised to keep the windows closed for the remainder of the trip just in case of further attacks. Thanks guys! Half the fun of riding these trains is having the windows open. So incredibly pathetic and childish. I was just as outraged as the next person about people vandalising the train, but whatever happened to safety first and conflict resolution... Lol some guys were acting like they were having some sort of psychotic mental attack screaming and spitting out every curse word imaginable. Anyway, it was a fairly enjoyable day prior to arriving at Essendon and I'm sad that I'll never get to ride these again Sad
Pcess7

Yep it was very childish for the vandals to damage the train.
  ogigacz Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Here is the Nine News report...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exQlsg2vEi0
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A kiiljoy mod here, wishing to remind everyone that in the rukes for posting is this section:

[rules]
Posts Regarding Illegal Activity
Posts that advocate or condone illegal activity such as those on the topic of graffiti will be removed, and the law enforcement authorities notified. - If you are a new user, we suggest you refrain from starting discussions on topics such as grafitti. - Displaying photographs of grafitti is also strictly prohibited.
[/rules]

We have enough of these lowlifes come here to find things out, so do not like to assist them or give them any cudos.

So posting photos and movies of their actions simply helps them.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Received a phone call last night from a passenger on the hitachi set yesterday. He advised of trouble also at essendon station where the alternate side of the train was also "tagged"

Does anyone have further details?
  ljayvee6 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Near the Apm Siding
I was disgusted at what i witnessed today. I was on the back carriage that was being targeted by vandals, which was bad enough. The police were called and that should have been the end of it. Instead, grown men on my carriage started fighting with the vandals. They were screaming and swearing abuse out the windows, littering and throwing things out the windows at people, one man was repeatedly kicking the doors and people were running up and down just screaming and causing mayhem. And incredulously, many people treated then like some bunch of heros that were protecting the train. They were 100 times worse than the grafitti vandals. I was seriously appalled. According to the rules of conduct that we all received, including no throwing things from windows, being polite etc, these idiots should have been removed from the train. I had my 5yo son with me and he was very scared and confused by what was happening. Paint can be cleaned off and vandals can be dealt with by the police. We all love hitachis, that's why we were there, but to act like an angry mob was totally uncalled for.
"Pcess7"

I was sitting second closest to the vandals, and no one forced the door open as there were 5 steamrail people and a connex man in our carriage. A guy did pour coke and smash a vandals phone at flinders street though.
  ljayvee6 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Near the Apm Siding
Received a phone call last night from a passenger on the hitachi set yesterday. He advised of trouble also at essendon station where the alternate side of the train was also "tagged"

Does anyone have further details?
"bevans"

Not an alternate side, but the rear drivers cab.
They broke the lock on the window and did god knows what.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Not an alternate side, but the rear drivers cab.
They broke the lock on the window and did god knows what.
ljayvee6


Was the train stopped at Essendon for a period?
  Dman66 Station Master

This is such a shame but for me; being about the same age as the vandals and being on social media sites like facebook, wasn't it quite obvious that vandals were going to attempt to graffiti the train? I would have thought that Elecrail would have organised to have police on board or at stations. Its soo sad that the train was vandalised but it should have been managed better: judging by the reports of others on here.

Dman66

Location: Banned
YEAAAAAAH be smeg SMASHIN UP YA smeg HITACHI smeg MAD PAINT SESH smeg yoh train nerds


[edit]This user banned. As i said these people watch this website. -MOD [/edit]
  501M Train Controller

Location: The Borough
Back on topic, here a link to some photos I took on the day.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Was the train stopped at Essendon for a period?
bevans

I was not on it but yes
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Can we bring Harry back and have him explain why they graffiti the trains and can we please have a translation to English ?
  501M Train Controller

Location: The Borough
Can we bring Harry back and have him explain why they graffiti the trains and can we please have a translation to English ?
freightgate

Why bother?  I doubt that Harry can construct a sentence.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The villains caught on video. If anyone can identify these criminals then please call crime stoppers on 1300 333 000.

I am aware it is not usually police to discuss these incidents but given the circumstances and the fact this information os available on others groups and the need to provide assistance to authorities, I have posted what could be useful video in identifying the offenders.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrtWQLnLFO0

Provided to assist in the identification of these criminals.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Hopefully some one will be in a position to identify these clowns and report them ASAP.
  Alex M Station Master

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I was one of the Train Officers on board for this trip and would like to make a few comments about what happened yesterday.

Firstly to the person who said it was just paint it actually did go a little bit beyond that.  In the Clifton Hill attack the wastes of human skin pulled the air taps on the back of the train disabling the brakes, this caused the train to be held up and provide them time to paint.  On the Essendon attack they had a key and entered the drivers cab (Like to know how they got it) and could have potentially caused god knows what, both of these actions put the train and it's passengers at risk.

I would also like to say that the abuse the Train Officers copped on the day was beyond unacceptable and hopefully something I never have experience again, I personally was spat in the face at Southern Cross and had to use all of my restraint not to kick the everloving crap out of the guy (however I did forcefully make him exit the train).  We had other volunteers have to physically pull people back into the train who were leaning out the windows vandalizing the side of the train with Textas.  And also in that incident several vile stink bombs were hurled through the windows of the cars as well.
The Elecrail volunteers are not trained crowd controllers, police, PSO's or AO's and frankly given the extraordinarily tough conditions we were forced to endure yesterday I thought we handled it pretty well.

Also the people who were handed over to the authorities at Clifton Hill were part of the same group that attacked us in such a vile manner later on in the day (Ain't justice grand!).

One last point, to the people who bought eggs, flour etc.... that was an extremely foolish move and actually escalated the situation to the point that the thugs started throwing rocks.  Grow up and think about what you are doing next time.

To the vandals I say this.  I'm sure your parents are so proud of you.

Alex
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
I have read enough.Good on you whoever you, you pile of excrement, for ruining some railfans day, and vandalising a train.

I was so infuriated reading the above post about volunteers being spat on, and the abuse they received....how utterly, utterly disgusting. NO volunteer in any capacity should have to put up with that. The idiots that did that, you disgust me.

You are probably sitting back, having a good laugh at yourselves, reading all of the above.
Well, the joke is on you.
Sooner or later, your balls will drop, and you will grow up, gain some maturity, and learn what complete morons you have been.
And I hope you have a major guilt trip.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Well said xxxlBear.

I am totally disgusted over hat I have read and thank you Railpage for the coverage. Without it we would not hae known about the issues  

What concerns me is how these issues will be viewed by metro trains. Let's hope they show some resilience and resist using these issues as a reason to stop future trips.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The absolutely appalling thing about this is that harry smasha and his mob actually think they've done something clever.
  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
Hello all,
I went on the trip, for the most part it was really good. Lots of nice high speed running, good weather, clean train and good to catchup with some mates. The issue on the way back into the city at Clifton Hill was a bit of a downer, but hey some people really are not worth the air they breathe (let alone the air in our BP). My bad point would be while at Southern Cross, on the final leg of our trip while in 36M (today's 287M). A steamrail 'train officer' stormed into the car (while still at the platform, via the gangway door from the T car) screaming abuse at 4-5 people in the car, using terrible language. This was then followed by forcing the doors open and even more abuse! Forcing the doors open... Extremely unprofessional, discussing behaviour. Young kids were on this car, hate to think how scared they must have been. Now this person along with others were obviously very frustrated at the time, but I don't see that as a reason to erupt into that level of anger. After seeing that from a person who should know better I was a little put off seeing the trip to the end. It was at Essendon that I called it quits and decided to leave. This was not before seeing MORE childish behaviour from people on the train throwing flower and screaming out the window. Never seen anything like this in my life. What the offenders (off the train) were doing was wrong, but two wrongs will never make a right. So my final memory of a Hitachi, a train that I have spent many hours working on and traveling on. Was the doors of my UP Comeng closing at Essendon, with a feel of much disappointment.

Thanks to ElecRail for opportunity however, I hope you seen some value in your volunteer hours, seemed to be good numbers on the trip.

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