Which Australian cities historically had double decker buses?

 
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
A quick question. Which Australian cities historically had double decker buses as part of their regular public transport besides Sydney?

I know Melbourne had them on its Bourke Street routes and Adelaide had double decker trolley buses. Did Adelaide also have double decker diesel buses?

Did Newcastle have double decker buses like Sydney?

What about other Australian cities?

Also does anyone have pictures of double decker buses running in Australian cities other than Sydney?

Thanks in advance.

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  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Adelaide had a few double deckers



from http://www.trammuseumadelaide.com.au/01_history_01_trolley.html
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Sydney had double deck steam trams Laughing
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I wonder some times just how much clearance there Is between to top of an open top double decker bus and overhead tram wires (on routes where they co exist)

I was on a double decker bus In Brussels and seeing the overhead tram wires were very very close.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Davis Bus (based in Ourimbah, nsw) operated double deckers in the 1980's, servicing the Gosford & Ourimbah area. They would cram 150+ high school students into them (as opposed to cramming 120+ into the single deckers). some pics of them can be seen in http://www.busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22064
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
I wonder some times just how much clearance there Is between to top of an open top double decker bus and overhead tram wires (on routes where they co exist)

I was on a double decker bus In Brussels and seeing the overhead tram wires were very very close.
"Nightfire"


I remember as a child seeing double decker coaches in Sydney bound for Melbourne and I would wonder how they would fit under the trams wires or if would stop just before Melbourne to avoid the problem.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Kirklands Lismore had Leyland Atlantean double deckers http://kirklandshistory.blogspot.com.au/
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
I'm fairly confident that double decker buses were used on (what is now) the No. 96 tram route from the late 1930's in the years between the last cable tram and the first electric tram. They were supposed to be a short term measure, but track relaying and installation of the wires was delayed by the war and I think the double decker buses ran on that route for almost a decade.

And of course, double decker trams famously ran in Hobart.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney

And of course, double decker trams famously ran in Hobart.
Bogong


Electric or steam trams?
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Electric or steam trams?
awsgc24


Electric. The open air top deck looks a little "character building" for Hobart's not exactly tropical climate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trams_in_Hobart

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  CAP_gauge Junior Train Controller

I'm fairly confident that double decker buses were used on (what is now) the No. 96 tram route from the late 1930's in the years between the last cable tram and the first electric tram. They were supposed to be a short term measure, but track relaying and installation of the wires was delayed by the war and I think the double decker buses ran on that route for almost a decade.

And of course, double decker trams famously ran in Hobart.
"Bogong"


You are correct, double-deck buses ran on the Bourke Street cable tram route, though your dates are slightly wrong. The cable trams definitely worked in to 1940, may have been around October 1940 they closed. The reason they closed then was that the equipment was worn out. The double-deckers lasted a little more than a decade. I think the electric trams were introduced on that route in 1955 or possibly 1956, but the double-deckers had been taken out of service a year or two before then. They had a problem, and that was they tended to have collisions with the verandas on the shops!

I remember riding on the top deck of a double-decker in 1952 with my older brother. We were visiting the All Models Exhibition at the Exhibition Building. A wonderful exhibition of aeroplanes, boats, trains and road vehicles. I was only seven years old at the time, but still remember it well, and still have the exhibition booklet which was published for the event.

With the double deck trams in Hobart I believe the reason the upper deck was open was to improve stability in high winds. Having said that, on all the visits I have made to that beautiful city the weather has been extremely agreeable. And they average more hours of sunshine per day than Melbourne.

Frank
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Thanks Frank. I vaguely knew the story, but I wasn't confident of the dates or the precise details.

I wondered why they decomissioned the Bourke Street cable tram without being ready to install an electric one, but your story that they were worn out makes sense. After all, the equipment was 55 years old at the time and about the only thing that was changed was the cables. The trams, the engine houses, the sheaves and bull wheels (or whatever they called them), must have been getting pretty run down.

By the way, Melbourne had the world's most extensive cable tram system 100 years ago and today we have the worlds most extensive electric tram system.

Thanks also for the anecdote about the double deck buses pranging into shop verandahs. Perhaps that's why they never became popular in this country?
  hilly Locomotive Fireman

Location: Mount Gambier
Newcastle had double deck buses. I can remember riding on them in the early 1950s.
There was one version that sticks in my mind where the seats on the upper deck were all in the left side, four abreast as I recall, and access was by a passageway with a lower floor on the right side. One had to take great care in moving into a window seat on the right side of the lower deck not to bump one's head on this protuberance from the upper deck. Presumably this was to reduce the height of the bus.
  Brianr Deputy Commissioner

Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
Thanks also for the anecdote about the double deck buses pranging into shop verandahs. Perhaps that's why they never became popular in this country?
Bogong

While a University student, I paid my way by working as a bus conductor on Sydney (mainly) doubledeckers in 62/63, 63/64 and 65/66 summer holidays. It was good money and I generally enjoyed it. I worked Burwood and Ryde depots. One evening, during a thunderstorm, I was crewing a 461 from York Street to North Strathfield via Concord. I had collected all fares so had no need to go upstairs until one passenger (the last)  came down to alight and told me we had hit an awning in Parramatta Rd and broken a number of windows. The passengers obviously kept it quiet to avoid having the bus terminated and waiting for a replacement.
I think the driver was disciplined (probably by working a stint as a conductor).  I would have thought any crash noise was thunder.
  allan Chief Commissioner

One of our school buses was a very old double decker. Before it was destroyed in the disaster at Wasleys it had been somewhat modified in an attempt to drive under a service station canopy...
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Saw a video today featuring double decker trolleybuses in Adelaide so plenty of clearance to the wires.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
New build Bustech CDI model double decker in regular commuter service on the Gold Coast for Surfside as part of SQ QLD Translink http://www.busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=63261

http://www.newbussearch.com.au/detail/buses/buses/bustech/cdi/26230
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper


By the way, Melbourne had the world's most extensive cable tram system 100 years ago and today we have the worlds most extensive electric tram system.

"Bogong"


It's a shame that part of the cable network wasn't kept as a tourist attraction.
  gxh Junior Train Controller

Location: SE suburbs
It's a shame that part of the cable network wasn't kept as a tourist attraction.
GeoffreyHansen

In his book, Mind the Curve, John Keating suggests that the Nicholson Street route from the corner of Rathdowne St (where the engine house was located) to its terminus at Park Street would have been a practicable proposition for retention. If only...... But we got the buses then the 96 tram instead.
  johnboy Chief Commissioner

Location: Up the road from Gulgong
I recall when I was young that the bus company in Penrith (Bosnjaks I think) had a few double deckers in the 1960-70s for school runs. The buses were removed when one of them struck a low bridge.

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