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    News article: State budget 2014: Major road and rail projects worth $24b to transform Melbourne

    In an election year budget, the Napthine government has picked up on the public mood and gone all out on transport spending, pledging that up to $24 billion will be invested in major new road and rail projects that will transform Melbourne.

      usedtobered Locomotive Fireman

    In an election year budget, the Napthine government has picked up on the public mood and gone all out on transport spending, pledging that up to $24 billion will be invested in major new road and rail projects that will transform Melbourne.

    The showpiece of this year's budget is the "Melbourne Rail Link", a 7.5 kilometre tunnel from South Yarra to Southern Cross Station that the government says will deliver a 30 per cent boost to rail capacity, carrying 35,000 extra passengers per hour on 30 extra train services.

    With $830 million committed over the next four years, starting with a modest $40 million in this budget, the Melbourne Rail Link is scheduled to open in 2023, Treasurer Michael O'Brien said.

    "Melbourne Rail Link will be the biggest expansion of the rail network since Henry Bolte created the City Loop," Mr O'Brien said.
    "State budget 2014: Major road and rail projects worth $24b to transform Melbourne"


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    Goodness,
    No station for Parkville, or Arden St!!
    Surely that is a mistake?
    Wonder if there will be a provision for dual gauge like there was in the original Metro plan to enable freights from the SE of Melbourne to go to the Port or up to NSW?
    Surely they should provide for this?- for the future, when the roads from the SE industrial area of Melbourne become clogged with B doubles or B triples?
    Posted: 06 May 2014 18:39

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      doyle Deputy Commissioner

    I can't believe it why not do the metro capacity properly what a wasted opportunity stupid liberals
    Posted: 06 May 2014 19:29
      doyle Deputy Commissioner

    Stupid liberals why not build the Swanston Street line do it once do it right the route change is ad hoc at best
    Posted: 06 May 2014 19:38
      ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

    Location: BleakCity
    This is pants on head retarded.

    As someone suggested elsewhere, it should be called the Bent Line.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 00:15
      Peter Spyker Train Controller

    The Liberal Party: delivering thousands of Frankston residents to the casino. That pretty much sums it up.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 09:00
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Surely they should provide for this?- for the future, when the roads from the SE industrial area of Melbourne become clogged with B doubles or B triples?
    usedtobered


    The road lobby has their $20b for new roads which will be clogged with B tripples and B doubles which will then require a $50b investment in 20 years.

    This is and has always been the plan.  There will not be a rail line upgrade to Hastings if that port development gets up.  It will all go on road is my prediction.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 09:28
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    The road lobby has their $20b for new roads which will be clogged with B tripples and B doubles which will then require a $50b investment in 20 years.

    This is and has always been the plan. There will not be a rail line upgrade to Hastings if that port development gets up. It will all go on road is my prediction.
    bevans

    They consider it too difficult - standard gauge to the east would require separate tracks down the Dandenong alignment.  If it was a toll-way, no problem but being a railway it's permanently in the too-hard basket.

    If you want to see the future of bulk haulage then look no further than the sea of B-doubles on the Monash 24 hours a day, mingling with motorists.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 15:25
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    They consider it too difficult - standard gauge to the east would require separate tracks down the Dandenong alignment. If it was a toll-way, no problem but being a railway it's permanently in the too-hard basket.

    If you want to see the future of bulk haulage then look no further than the sea of B-doubles on the Monash 24 hours a day, mingling with motorists.
    don_dunstan


    Unfortunately I think you are correct. Time will tell.  It will all lead to an increase in the road toll and road deaths.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 15:31
      Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

    Location: Yarra Glen
    "The project ......... also includes a rail link between Melbourne Airport and Southern Cross, with stops at Footscray and Sunshine."

    So this is the officially sanctioned route?  Effectively going around two sides of a triangle, and having to mix it with Metro and/or V/Line trains?  This almost throw away line is short on detail (unless it's detailed somewhere else):  

    Will it use RRL tracks, where available?
    Will it use existing trains, or new ones?
    If new trains, to what design?
    Will it be electrified?
    How much will a ticket cost?
    What will be the journey time?
    Where, at the airport, will the station be located?
    How will the service compare with the existing Skybus?
    Operating hours and service frequency?
    Projected cost of construction?
    Date operational?
    Posted: 07 May 2014 15:33
      freightgate Minister for Railways

    Location: Albury, New South Wales
    There is a thread on here with outlines details on the Melbourne airport link. The link will be electrified using the rrl tracks so there will now need to be electrified.

    The rrl tracks will be used from southern cross to sunshine. Then to Albion via the BG freight line.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 15:53
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Posted: 07 May 2014 16:04
      blowfish Junior Train Controller

    So just up from the Exhibition Centre and Crown.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 16:07
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia


    and for reference

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montague_railway_station
    Posted: 07 May 2014 16:08

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      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    The Liberal Party: delivering thousands of Frankston residents to the casino. That pretty much sums it up.
    Peter Spyker


    Posted: 07 May 2014 16:19
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Unfortunately I think you are correct. Time will tell. It will all lead to an increase in the road toll and road deaths.
    bevans

    Yeah but the road toll is entirely the fault of motorists, nothing to do with State Government policy forcing more trucks onto the roads. Haven't you learned anything from all your years of indoctrinations?
    Posted: 07 May 2014 19:56
      waynes Junior Train Controller

    Location: Victoria
    Yeah but the road toll is entirely the fault of motorists, nothing to do with State Government policy forcing more trucks onto the roads. Haven't you learned anything from all your years of indoctrinations?
    don_dunstan


    It is fact heavy vehicles are proportionately over represented in road accidents. If you wish to run trucks to the Port of Hastings then a dedicated road is what is required.  This is undisputed risk to road users with heavy vehicles.

    The best option and by far the safest and most friendly to the environment would be a rail line to the Port SG with connections to Interstate. It needs to be part of the package.

    I believe the Labour plan for Western Port (Western side of Port Phillip) involves SG and BG links to a new yard or even Geelong as a sorting destination.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 20:08
      DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

    Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
    bevans

    From that, it can be assumed that there will be a spare pair of tracks from South Yarra to Flinders St.

    What will happen to them?
    Posted: 07 May 2014 20:16
      ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

    Location: BleakCity
    bevans

    A better image would be its inception as a dart thrown at a map by a drunk MP.

    It is fact heavy vehicles are proportionately over represented in road accidents.
    waynes

    The majority of truck accidents have the car driver at fault.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 20:21
      waynes Junior Train Controller

    Location: Victoria
    The majority of truck accidents have the car driver at fault.
    ZH836301


    This is not the case in NSW. 17% of all road accidents which involve a fatality are caused by heavy vehicles.

    There is no doubt these fatalities would not have occured or would have been reduced had there not been a heavy vehicle involved. Ever driven in the USA?

    If you had you would know there are very few heavy vehicles. I have never seen a B Double on the road in the USA. Rail is the way!

    If you care about road safety the the safety of road users more freight would go on rail.

    Let's get back to the topic.
    Posted: 07 May 2014 20:26

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      waynes Junior Train Controller

    Location: Victoria
    Wanted to add mine.

    Posted: 07 May 2014 20:44
      ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

    Location: BleakCity
    Royal Childrens?

    ALP could make this a vote winner if they don't smeg up with BS like this.
    Posted: 08 May 2014 15:08
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    Wanted to add mine.

    waynes

    I hope they the Royal Melbourne Hospital...I don't ever recall a proposal for a station at the Royal Children's...
    Posted: 08 May 2014 17:41

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      JimYarin Chief Commissioner

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    the latest from napthine

    Posted: 12 May 2014 15:50
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    I hope Dr. Napthine can see how unpopular his east-west truck sewer is from the number of retweets...
    Posted: 12 May 2014 16:51

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      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    I hope Dr. Napthine can see how unpopular his east-west truck sewer is from the number of retweets...
    railblogger

    They're going to build it anyway. All the publicity is to try and convince the public about the validity of the $12+ billion they're about to flush down the toilet, that's all. Regardless of who is in power after November, the contracts will already be signed and the work will already have begun.

    Incidentally, I had never heard about the proposed North-South link until recently and at first I thought it was a joke... didn't we learn anything from Cross-City, Lane Cove and Clem7 or are we doomed to brainlessly repeat every single mistake that Sydney and Brisbane made?
    Posted: 12 May 2014 20:00

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