The VR arrows logo

 
  BillWh Beginner

Anyone tell me when the VR arrow logo first appeared on goods wagons? I suspect it was after the R class locos had been withdrawn from revenue service, and thus, if I run my Eureka R class with wagons thus emblazoned, I am creating an anachronism which may disrupt the space/time continuum, and have my whole train disappear in a flash of energy into a black hole.........or something like that.
At the least, I would possibly be considered ignorant and uninformed, but only by a visiting Victorian modeler. I doubt any modeler  up here in Sydney would know or care.

Anyone put my mind at rest?

.......................Bill W

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  M636C Minister for Railways

Anyone tell me when the VR arrow logo first appeared on goods wagons? I suspect it was after the R class locos had been withdrawn from revenue service, and thus, if I run my Eureka R class with wagons thus emblazoned, I am creating an anachronism which may disrupt the space/time continuum, and have my whole train disappear in a flash of energy into a black hole.........or something like that.
At the least, I would possibly be considered ignorant and uninformed, but only by a visiting Victorian modeler. I doubt any modeler up here in Sydney would know or care.

Anyone put my mind at rest?

.......................Bill W
BillWh

My personal recollection is that the smaller logo appeared in late 1962 or 1963.

I also saw R class in regular service in 1964.

Try to avoid the large logo, however.

A real answer would be found on Mark Bau's VR site or Peter Vincent's VR wagon site.

M636C
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
By the mid 1960's most of the 70 R class were mothballed, but they fired many of them up for the grain harvest, as almost every diesel was utilised on routine services, so there were almost none to spare.

So people who were around then saw 12 year old big wheeled express steam engines slowly hauling long rakes of GY's (and the occasional collection of bogie grain wagons "emblazoned" with the  logo).

Of course some R's remained in passenger service. I understand that the Bendigo to Swan Hill passenger run was one of the last to be regularly scheduled with an R at the head.
  M636C Minister for Railways

By the mid 1960's most of the 70 R class were mothballed, but they fired many of them up for the grain harvest, as almost every diesel was utilised on routine services, so there were almost none to spare.

So people who were around then saw 12 year old big wheeled express steam engines slowly hauling long rakes of GY's (and the occasional collection of bogie grain wagons "emblazoned" with the logo).

Of course some R's remained in passenger service. I understand that the Bendigo to Swan Hill passenger run was one of the last to be regularly scheduled with an R at the head.
Bogong

The Ararat- Horsham train was steam hauled until fairly late, and I certainly saw that with an R class in 1963 or 1964, although it was also known to use a J class.

The GJX aluminium bogie grain wagons date to 1966 and had the large logo in black.

I doubt that they would have been regularly hauled by R class but it is possible. But J and K class would definitely have still been around at that period.

M636C
  t_woodroffe Assistant Commissioner

The aluminium GJX wagons entered service with a small VR logo (2'-6"). From February 1972 the large (4'-6") VR logo was introduced for application on the ally hoppers.

The VR logo was adopted from February 1963 for standard gauge wagons.

TW
  M636C Minister for Railways

The aluminium GJX wagons entered service with a small VR logo (2'-6"). From February 1972 the large (4'-6") VR logo was introduced for application on the ally hoppers.

The VR logo was adopted from February 1963 for standard gauge wagons.

TW
t_woodroffe

TW,

What dimension does your measurement refer to?

Is this the height of the lettering or the length of the logo over the arrows?

I can recall seeing new GJXs heading south from Tulloch Limited, and the logo was about 4'6" over the ends of the arrows. Of course much larger logos appeared on the yellow painted steel grain hoppers.

I guess it looked like a large logo to me in 1966...

Thanks for the introduction date: it matches my recollections.

M636C
  t_woodroffe Assistant Commissioner

Height of "VR" letters.

TW

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