Bundoora to South Morang - Extending Route 86

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Some lobbying to extend route 86 to South Morang:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/call-to-extend-plenty-road-tram-line-to-south-morang-station-20140618-zsay6.html


A campaign is growing to extend tram route 86 from its terminus opposite RMIT’s Bundoora campus on the corner of Plenty Road and McKimmies Road some five kilometres north to South Morang railway station.

Just two years after it opened, the railway station car park cannot cater for demand, with hordes of commuters parking each day on vacant land owned by Westfield.

Local public transport campaigner Trevor Carroll said the tram extension would ‘‘complete the missing link’’ between the east and west of the City of Whittlesea, which is home to almost 200,000 people, and ease pressure on the fast-growing municipality’s straining roads and public transport.

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  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Sounds nice...

But is this just wishful thinking from a few local dreamers (or even political lobbyists?)... OR is there an expert study showing there would be sufficient patronage to justify the considerable expense of both building and operating it?
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
It the great scheme of things, have they worked out where the next station up the line will be ? Seems taking the tram to the station would be better to meet the future railway straight up Plenty Road rather than diverting to the existing station. However this "diversing would be good for the residents along the route.

But  terminating at the shopping center would be good for business, and I bet if they did tram it, it would NOT be anywhere near the rail station for interchange, which is what i would expect.

Regards,
David Head
  712M Chief Commissioner

I've always supported the idea of this. It will provide a much faster and more convenient service between South Morang and La Trobe University and other stops down the line over the current bus/train combination. It will also boost passenger numbers on the current northernmost section of the line. I would also suggest extending it through South Morang to Mernda via the former rail alignment to provide a frequent and cheaper alternative to heavy rail.

Obviously the extension would not be intended for hours long trips to the city, but it does however provide an alternative during disruptions to the South Morang line. Although before any construction begins there needs to be a lot of tram priority work done to the inner section of the 86 to eliminate delays and cut running times down.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Just let route 30 take care of Waterfront City, and terminate route 86 at Lonsdale St. crossover.
  blowfish Junior Train Controller

Nearly impossible now for a tram route to service the existing South Morang station. Sure there's a reserve down the middle of Plenty Rd and McDonalds Rd, as far as the intersection with Bush Blvd, but between there and Plenty Rd is very tricky. This is due to housing and apartment developments on either side of Bush Blvd, which is a single lane road, between McDonalds Rd and Plenty Rd.

They could use the water mains reserve, with a flyover for Plenty Rd, but that would be costly.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Just terminate wherever the reservation goes.  The tram also goes to the City, so you can take the tram to City if you are not in a hurry, or you can change to a train at Bell St.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Could light rail be over emphasised in Melbourne ?

Who would want to take a long tram trip to the city from way out north ? Trams were designed for short trips. What short trips would there be from south morang ?
  blowfish Junior Train Controller

Could light rail be over emphasised in Melbourne ?

Who would want to take a long tram trip to the city from way out north ? Trams were designed for short trips. What short trips would there be from south morang ?
freightgate

The campaign leader is a student it seems and the route does service La Trobe and RMIT universities.
  blowfish Junior Train Controller

Just terminate wherever the reservation goes. The tram also goes to the City, so you can take the tram to City if you are not in a hurry, or you can change to a train at Bell St.
route14

The route doesn't really interface with the line at any point, not without a walk involved. The best option is the stretch south of the Plenty Rd/High St junction and Clifton Hill (Thorbury, Croxton, Northcote, Merri).
  msilsby Deputy Commissioner

Location: Canberra
Could light rail be over emphasised in Melbourne ?

Who would want to take a long tram trip to the city from way out north ? Trams were designed for short trips. What short trips would there be from south morang ?
freightgate

That is like saying train travel is not attractive for those only going a few stops. People utilise what is available in a manner that makes sense to them.

Sure, light rail might not be the fastest mode about, but not everyone is a time sensitive passenger. And who knows? It might actually be built in such a way that a decent speed is achieved - the fact that there is a significant right of way/ability for segregated running will help in this regard.

Running services down St Georges Terrace might also be a way of speeding up the service, what with the segregated running there.

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