6029 To Return To Operation Today

 
  jcgaydon Station Master

Location: Central Coast NSW
I have been informed that 6029 is now ready to operate under her own steam power after a long overhaul in Canberra.

This is exciting news, as there are very few NSW locos left which are serviceable and no other Garratts are likely to run again.

As a tribute, I have put together a short post on my experiences photographing Garratts back in the 1960s and 1970s.



The above picture is 6029 on a special, I think i the early 1980s. Any ideas?

More at http://steamtrainstories.com/australia/nsw/6029-garratt-steam/

Enjoy
John Gaydon

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  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Hope I see it one day, rare horse indeed.
  M636C Minister for Railways

The photo is from the Crookwell Road, just at the crest of the climb from Gunning Creek and just before the drop into Fish River. It is an Up train.

I think there was only one major trip on the Main South, and photos appear in John Buckland's collection of digitised photos on the National Library website.

http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/cdview/?pi=nla.pic-vn4540496

If that is the trip it would be 16 June 1980.

However, the vehicles in this photo don't match the JLB photos further south (no water tank, for a start) so it might be another trip...

There was TV coverage on the ABC News tonight showing 6029 running inside the museum. They interviewed Brigadier Mellor, among others.

M636C
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

I can remember being at Thirlmere quite a few years ago (when you could actually climb around in the locos) and there was a guy there (I don't know any names there) who said he was campaining to have the Garratt rebuilt but was coming up against a lot of opposition within the Museum as the cost to do so could be been spent restoring at least 2 or 3 other locos.
As much as I love a good Garratt, it did seem to make financial sense to just leave the old girl out a put few others back on the rails, but now it is done I am looking forward to seeing her and showing my eldest grandson (who will make a fine gunzel)
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Now the locomotive has returned to service when can we expect to see her out on the main line leading a trip ?  Any plans ?
  jcgaydon Station Master

Location: Central Coast NSW
Now the locomotive has returned to service when can we expect to see her out on the main line leading a trip ? Any plans ?
freightgate

I believe this first steam movement is just a part of getting the engine accredited for mainline running. I suspect it may be some time before she is cleared for service. It is a big step though. I read on the blog that the loco had to be updated with a speedo, and other equipment that is essential on modern trains. Not like the old days when you had no idea how fast you were going! I think they track trains by GPS these days.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
A speedo and an Ice Radio I imagine .
I have seen drivers use use a smart phone GPS speed reading if the normal speedo went haywire ...
  a6et Minister for Railways

I am glad we did not have speedo's in them, or for that matter any other steam locomotive in regular service, owing to the actual speed that was done especially as the system demanded momentum driving, & the best way was to not brake, & have the screw all but at centre, with regulator at normal drifting settings, meaning we were working down grades.

A typical example was dropping through Wyee on the down, on steam you worked as above, on a diesel you picked up 20mph down the grade shutting off under the bridge at max of 22mph, & run down in 1T/N.   Having to work that way on steam meant a harder trip even on a stoker fed engine like the garratt, worse on a rock chopper.

It will be interesting to see the speed that will be placed on 29 in service with Canberra, & how the need to drive in accord with a Hasler will go,
  Spletsie Chief Commissioner

I can remember being at Thirlmere quite a few years ago (when you could actually climb around in the locos) and there was a guy there (I don't know any names there) who said he was campaining to have the Garratt rebuilt but was coming up against a lot of opposition within the Museum as the cost to do so could be been spent restoring at least 2 or 3 other locos.
As much as I love a good Garratt, it did seem to make financial sense to just leave the old girl out a put few others back on the rails, but now it is done I am looking forward to seeing her and showing my eldest grandson (who will make a fine gunzel)
Showtime

The Garratt at Thirlmere is 6040, which remains as a static exhibit.
The Garratt under restoration to working order in Canberra is 6029.
Very much looking forward to seeing it on the rails again.
  konkos Assistant Commissioner

Location: Live next door to half-bar
It's a long time coming and like many other I too wish it well and all the tributes it deserves and the Canberra boy for all the effort getting this far with all the knockers.  I do have a little question which bugs me in that who actually owns 6029, is it the Commonwealth of Australia or what. Either way this loco is going to certainly bring new and much needed a breath of fresh air into the Heritage Locomotive listings to come on stream and justly so.
Well done Canberra.
konkos
  a6et Minister for Railways

It's a long time coming and like many other I too wish it well and all the tributes it deserves and the Canberra boy for all the effort getting this far with all the knockers. I do have a little question which bugs me in that who actually owns 6029, is it the Commonwealth of Australia or what. Either way this loco is going to certainly bring new and much needed a breath of fresh air into the Heritage Locomotive listings to come on stream and justly so.
Well done Canberra.
konkos
konkos

It was gifted to the ARHS Canberra, certainly not by the Commonwealth of Australia, they don't even have any sort of interest in another of Canberra's engines that is credited with hauling the first train into the capital, 1210.

The recent Centenary celebrations of the railways opening hardly had any sort of input from the Commonwealth either in the meantime 1210 is in need of money towards its RTS as well, think the mob on capital hill would care? the only thing that those with the money strings are interested in regarding smoke, is cigars.
  konkos Assistant Commissioner

Location: Live next door to half-bar
How true and thanks a6et on setting the records straight on the outset.  The fact still remains that it's a remarkable feat that 6029 will be a goer very soon at last we all should be very proud of.
konkos
  konkos Assistant Commissioner

Location: Live next door to half-bar
How true and thanks a6et on setting the records straight on the outset.  The fact still remains that it's a remarkable feat that 6029 will be a goer very soon at last we all should be very proud of.
konkos
  jcgaydon Station Master

Location: Central Coast NSW
As regards 1210, I saw this engine plinthed outside Canberra Railway Station as a 15 year old in 1967 on my first visit there.

  jcgaydon Station Master

Location: Central Coast NSW
The photo is from the Crookwell Road, just at the crest of the climb from Gunning Creek and just before the drop into Fish River. It is an Up train.

I think there was only one major trip on the Main South, and photos appear in John Buckland's collection of digitised photos on the National Library website.

http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/cdview/?pi=nla.pic-vn4540496

If that is the trip it would be 16 June 1980.

However, the vehicles in this photo don't match the JLB photos further south (no water tank, for a start) so it might be another trip...

There was TV coverage on the ABC News tonight showing 6029 running inside the museum. They interviewed Brigadier Mellor, among others.

M636C

Thanks for the information. To shed a little more light on this, from memory the trip went to Tumut. Here is a photo of 3102 crossing the Murrumbidgee at Gundegai.

M636C
  Jajb94 Deputy Commissioner

Location: In a BAM
Even though 6029 is beginning trials, we can not forget the fact that they still need our help to get her on the mainline. Trials are not cheap, and just the small movements around the railway museum used several tonnes of expensive coal, oils, and water, so to keep the 6029 project going they still need your help.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Sorry got no money for coal.
Where can the enthusiasts send their dollars?
  a6et Minister for Railways

Sorry got no money for coal.
Where can the enthusiasts send their dollars?
Junction box

Go to  http://blog.project6029.com/  bookmark the page as it provides updates to what is going on, also a link there to donate money.
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
As a simple economic question, as it seems that this locomotive being so large will be quite costly to run.
If the aim is to run railfan trips, what are the fares likley to be , and the required number of passengers needed
to make a trip viable?
Has anyone done these sorts of sums?
  M636C Minister for Railways

As a simple economic question, as it seems that this locomotive being so large will be quite costly to run.
If the aim is to run railfan trips, what are the fares likley to be , and the required number of passengers needed
to make a trip viable?
Has anyone done these sorts of sums?
MD

As well as being large it can haul a big train, which if full, will pay for itself.

Not having run for thirty years and there being no similar working locomotive will help it attract passengers.

It looked good running up and down Canberra yard on Friday. It has an LED headlight on the rear in the original casing.

M636C
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
Unfortunately, in my long history of travelling on railfan trips, most of the passengers
dont actually travel on the train at all, but instead motorcade it in their cars , taking pictures of it.
Does very little for paying for the trains running costs.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Unfortunately, in my long history of travelling on railfan trips, most of the passengers
dont actually travel on the train at all, but instead motorcade it in their cars , taking pictures of it.
Does very little for paying for the trains running costs.
MD


If not enough passengers ride the train, it doesn't run and nobody gets photographs.

M636C
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Not sure if you've already seen this, but in case you haven't.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NImBrqECYlU

It stirred my blood to see (and hear) this beautiful machine back on the rails...

Bill Roach
  hunslet1915 Chief Train Controller

How true and thanks a6et on setting the records straight on the outset. The fact still remains that it's a remarkable feat that 6029 will be a goer very soon at last we all should be very proud of.
konkos
konkos

My recollection is that 6029 was originally acquired by the Commonwealth for the proposed National Museum of Australia.   However, on delivery to Canberra for the NMA, the locomotive was kept at the Canberra Railway Museum as the NMA had nowhere to put it.   Subsequently, ownership of the locomotive was transferred to the ARHS/ACT.   I do stand to be corrected as to whether the ownership was actually transferred or the loco placed on extended/permanent loan.
  Fireman Dave Chief Commissioner

Location: Shh, I'm hiding
My recollection is that 6029 was originally acquired by the Commonwealth for the proposed National Museum of Australia.   However, on delivery to Canberra for the NMA, the locomotive was kept at the Canberra Railway Museum as the NMA had nowhere to put it.   Subsequently, ownership of the locomotive was transferred to the ARHS/ACT.   I do stand to be corrected as to whether the ownership was actually transferred or the loco placed on extended/permanent loan.
"hunslet1915"


Ownership was transfered nearly 20 years ago. She was dragged over to the station by 3016 for the handover.

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