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      Showtime Chief Train Controller

    Tim Owens and Andrew Cornwall have both just resigned from State Parliament after their recent admissions to ICAC of receiving monies from banned developers.
    Have to wait and see if McCloy gets called up to have a say.
    At present I haven't seen his name on the list although several members of the "get rid of the rail" Newcastle Alliance were listed as testifying today
    Once the parasitic McCloy is outed then Newcastle will stand a chance of honest investment
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 14:51

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      Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

    I know this is not strictly about the rail line, although somewhat related, & perhaps it might be better to split some of these posts in a new thread, but anyway, http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2482463/icac-councillors-seek-urgent-meeting-with-lord-mayor-jeff-mccloy-poll/?cs=303
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 17:41

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      JimYarin Chief Commissioner

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    92% of people suggested he should resign immediately.
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 17:42

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      GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

    Location: In a FAM sleeper
    I think the whole closure should be looked at by ICAC.
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 17:45
      JimYarin Chief Commissioner

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    I think the whole closure should be looked at by ICAC.
    GeoffreyHansen


    if that were to happen they the trail would lead right back to sydney?

    plus have you seen this?

    http://www.railpage.com.au/news/article-14854/
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 17:48

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      Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

    Enormous pressure now on the lord mayor McCloy to resign. Local residents joking by putting brown bags in peoples (excuse us gotta laugh) in the Cooks Hill area.

    UPDATE LIVE FROM NEWCASTLE TOWN HALL AT 18:05: Jeff McCloy now hard to find & not speaking, etc.

    By elections will be held in Newcastle & Charlestown.
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 18:04

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      JimYarin Chief Commissioner

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    http://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/independent-mp-calls-for-probity-audit-in-wake-of-icac at least someone wants the deal looked at.
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 18:05
      Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

    Looks like the premier has for the upteenth time "ran" to Gladys to release yet another transport media release in an attempt to divert attention away from ICAC.
    Posted: 12 Aug 2014 19:27
      tezza Chief Commissioner
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 01:17
      TomBTR Chief Train Controller

    Location: near Sydney
    Yes, well Tezza has a point with his clock.

    Perhaps he is trying to say that although Express and others are having an "I told you so" moment with the exposure of the corrupt behavior of some of the vandals working to get their hands on the railway land, once a real-estate opportunity has been revealed, other land thieves will step in to take the place of any who fall by the wayside.

    This is no time to relax. Newcastle Express, Showtime, JimYarin and everyone else will need to keep spreading the word.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 10:09
      Showtime Chief Train Controller

    That Gladys is one arrogant b****.
    She must have a hidden agenda to keep pushing the closure despite all the opposition (and please Tezza don't tell me there isn't any opposition to the closure)
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 10:10
      tezza Chief Commissioner

    Admittedly there are a few vociferous opponents from Save our Rail and other minority groups which have publicly demonstrated their massed support at noisy rallies with approximately 88 rowdy demonstrators appearing outside Parliament house in June and more recently the 200 or so at Maitland.
    At the other end of the scale there are the thousands of supperters all over the region who are not so vociferous quietly getting on with their lives awaiting the outcome of the rejuvenation and revitalisation of the city with the accompanying improvement in public transport, infrastructure, employment opportunities and easier acces to and around the city and environs
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 12:11
      GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

    Location: In a FAM sleeper
    So is the last train going to run on Christmas Day? What sneak do they have.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 12:21
      Showtime Chief Train Controller

    Tezza, I love your optimism.

    If only I could see the future of Newcastle through your rose coloured glasses I would be able to safely relax in the knowledge that the transport and development needs of the city are in safe and dependable hands.

    Unfortunately you and I are living in parallel universe's and in mine all the politicians are corrupt and the plans are to destroy an existing system and replace it with spectacular light rail which haven't been designed, quoted, budgeted or even discussed.
    I can look forward to no rail transport after Boxing day but I will be able to look forward to a proposed interchange with a large carport roof, traffic congestion in the Wickham and Hamilton areas like never seen before, and no plans for a bus interchange to link up with it.
    I can also look forward to wasting $400M earned from the misguided lease of the Port which could have been spent on at least half a dozen more worthy and needy projects.

    So you can see your world looks much nicer than mine, but sadly yours doesn't appear to really exist, so welcome to mine!
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 13:00
      tezza Chief Commissioner

    Optimists are exactly what the city needs, not manic depressives.

    But I can see clearly you have never caught public transport eg. a bus from the outer suburbs into Newcastle Station through the traffic delays on Hunter Street in order to catch a connecting train out the way you have just travelled. This logical system doesn't always work 90% of the time so you are left waiting under the single canopy of platform one usually for 90 to 120 minutes for another train out of there.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 13:59

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      JimYarin Chief Commissioner

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    labour now buying in to the decision.  not sure this is over yet.

    http://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/john-robertson-casts-doubt-over-newcastle-rail-plans
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 14:09
      NotebookMan Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Wahroonga NSW
    Media release regarding truncation
    http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=Truncation&p0=569&swk=1&year=2014&month=12&day=26&hour=0&min=1&sec=0
    tezza

    Gosh, doesn't it just look like a ticking bomb?
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 19:19

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      NotebookMan Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Wahroonga NSW
    Not quite on topic until you remember that Parsons Brinckerhoff prepared the study for Hunter Development Corporation in 2009 that initiated the plan to close the Newcastle line west of Stewart Avenue. This casts an interesting light on their methodology at that time.

    http://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/westconnex-adviser-engineered-traffic-numbers-on-lane-cove-tunnel-disaster
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 19:29

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      tezza Chief Commissioner

    Last time i looked light railways also ran on rails.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 22:01
      NotebookMan Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Wahroonga NSW
    Last time i looked light railways also ran on rails.
    tezza

    When you see light rail running in Newcastle, let us know.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 22:28
      tezza Chief Commissioner

    For sure, but it doesn't really bother me if it never eventuates as it is only a 2 km easy walk from Wickham to Newcastle and there is also the more frequent bus service. The heavy rail service for the 2km isn't going to be missed by many when it is removed.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 23:04
      Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

    tezza, I agree with wxtre.

    Despite what you may think, developers ARE after that rail land.

    You have so failed to say how is it the rail line's fault for any so called decline of the Newcastle CBD.
    How is CUTTING rail, going to bring people to the CBD? It will drive them away.
    Posted: 14 Aug 2014 00:11

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      tezza Chief Commissioner

    They will get into town the same way that they do now,  driving a car or as passengers , catching the bus, walking , riding a bicycle etc etc and in the future will be passengers the light railway.
    Posted: 14 Aug 2014 00:27
      GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

    Location: In a FAM sleeper
    They will get into town the same way that they do now,  driving a car or as passengers , catching the bus, walking , riding a bicycle etc etc and in the future will be passengers the light railway.
    "tezza"


    Isn't this just finding ways of passing off the problems from closing the line?

    Two kilometres is a fair way to walk for some people especially the elderly?
    Posted: 14 Aug 2014 08:36
      Junction box Chief Commissioner

    Location: newy
    Yeah because everyone wants trams up Hunter street to slow traffic to a crawl.
    They need to bring back Toronto and Cessnock trains so Newcastle is used like it was supposed to be used.
    Posted: 14 Aug 2014 10:31

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