Novelty validators for the Show

 
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
Who says the government has no sense of humour?
DPTI Facebook page says punters will enjoy novelty animal noises when Metrocards are validated at Showgrounds station.

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  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Must try it.

Might break a habit and go to the show.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
They should try getting the radio problem fixed on a railcar set the other night that stopped at Croydon and also at St Clair because the radio was acting up. A friend of mine was on this train. Wasting money on animal sounds, what next the sound of gunshots at Elizabeth or something!
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
"Novelty validators... will make show animal noises when a Metrocard is successfully validated"

Hmm, if transport authorities were really into appropriate noises, this could be taken further...

- Sheep baaing on peak hour suburban trains when passengers validate their cards.
- Cattle mooing when economy class airline passengers present their boarding passes.
- The discreet rattle of gold sovereigns for business class airline passengers...
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

They should try getting the radio problem fixed on a railcar set the other night that stopped at Croydon and also at St Clair because the radio was acting up. A friend of mine was on this train. Wasting money on animal sounds, what next the sound of gunshots at Elizabeth or something!
David Peters

David, Chill.  Don't be so miserable.

Different techs work on the radio vs the validators. Until you know what the fault on the radio was you can't accuse time spent on a validator as the reason for the radio problems.


Of greater concern is the adverse publicity Kesville (Showgrounds) station has received in this morning's Sadvertiser. I will discourage people from using it.

The time for their comments is after the show, NOT before it. Hopefully they will finish up with some egg on their tabloid.

Ian
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.

fred1 hour ago

The train station built without development approval that is way over the top for what was ever needed. Just more money wasted by this government. The original Keswick station was built for interstate passengers, about 300 metres away. IF passengers could not walk that far to the show, Keswick barracks, or local Anzac Hwy businesses they do not deserve transport. And really was even the temporary stop for the showgrounds ever needed? Probably not. But it was multi millions of dollars less money.

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Brian1 minute ago
@fred Do you actually use trains? You don't know what you are talking about. Keswick predated the Interstate terminal by many decades and had steep stairs to the overbridge which made it a nightmare for anyone carrying luggage and an impossibility for anyone with mobility difficulties. Then there was a long winding walk very little shorter than the new much more convenient lift connected one at Adelaide Showground. As a mobility scooter user, I use it frequently as a cross platform connection from the Seaford to Belair lines instead of Goodwood with its narrow underpass and very steep ramps. In addition, there are plans to increase the local housing and business space in the area by the relocation of the Keswick military complex.





This is my reply to one of the more ridiculous comments on the Advertiser article. The great majority of the responders to the article clearly know little or nothing about public transport and obviously rarely or never use the railways.



  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I think the novelty validation sound is a nice touch, I reckon there's a bunch of little people who are going to get quite some enjoyment from that. I am not a part of the project of course, but altering the sound file that's played on validation hardly strikes me as a difficult task. I think there should be more of it.
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
I think the novelty validation sound is a nice touch, I reckon there's a bunch of little people who are going to get quite some enjoyment from that. I am not a part of the project of course, but altering the sound file that's played on validation hardly strikes me as a difficult task. I think there should be more of it.
Aaron

Hear, Hear! I for one am a big kid who will get pleasure from such a thoughtful and inexpensive way to add a little joy to the lives of all people who are young at heart, no matter what their physical ages.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Anyone seen the moo button at coles? same thing
  torrens5022 Junior Train Controller

Since when does Adelaide have ticket validators at train stations?
Seems odd since all rail cars are fitted with validators, maybe they should add animal noises to the "push for announcement" button, the next train to Belair will depart in moo 37 minutes then have a kookaburra laughing at the end LOL.  Evil or Very Mad
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Since when does Adelaide have ticket validators at train stations?
Seems odd since all rail cars are fitted with validators, maybe they should add animal noises to the "push for announcement" button, the next train to Belair will depart in moo 37 minutes then have a kookaburra laughing at the end LOL. Evil or Very Mad
torrens5022

Good point about validators on train stations torrens5022 and drivers will have to change them when working other lines if they are referring to on train validators as some railcars are used elsewhere not held captive to a service. A waste of time and effort here that could be better spent doing things for the actual travelling public more than trying to please a crowd at just another railway station!

How about getting timetables that actually will work instead of these pieces of fiction they call timetables now, fixing other stations to make them more pleasing to the travelling public, some are still in the 1970's in quite a few places!

Sure it is fun etc but travelling on trains is not at the moment! Seem's to me to be a bit of trying to prop up Adelaide Metro's bad reputation more than anything else, a simple case of ego by the looks of it! Do something for all travellers not just those going to the show each year!
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Since when does Adelaide have ticket validators at train stations?
"torrens5022"
The temporary platform for the Royal Show (which has since been replaced by a permanent station) has always had validators for the platform entry to speed up boarding for the shuttle trains.

Since the new hybrid Metrocard/ticket validators were installed at Adelaide Railway Station, these now validate the start of a new trip or record a transfer when entering/exiting the station. The old style ticket validators only checked that the ticket had not expired, once you were into the station it was a free railway after that.

Noarlunga and Salisbury stations are due to get ticket validators in the near future as part of a revenue protection and security upgrade. Presumably this will also include a staff presence from first train to last train, which would be necessary to operate the wide gate for passengers with a wheelchair, pushchair or bicycle; let through passengers with various non-Metrocard passes (e.g. +1 pass, borked Metroticket, AFL match ticket etc); and to open the gates in the event of an emergency requiring the evacuation of the station.

There has been talk of installing them at the Paradise and TTP interchanges on the O-Bahn - as with the Show shuttle the purpose would be to speed up boarding.
Good point about validators on train stations torrens5022 and drivers will have to change them when working other lines if they are referring to on train validators as some railcars are used elsewhere not held captive to a service. A waste of time and effort here that could be better spent doing things for the actual travelling public more than trying to please a crowd at just another railway station!
"David Peters"
Read for comprehension!

The validators with animal noises are the validators at the Adelaide Showground station, not on-board validators. Carriages in use on shuttle trains have plastic bags put over the on-board validators.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Validators making noises is only turning the rail system into a fun fair if you want a fun fair and associated noises then go into the actual show! Still seems like a gimmick though. Also I have no need to use this station at all and would not waste my time going to see it either! Been past it yes, but I have never used it!
  torrens5022 Junior Train Controller

So are we going to have a system which Melbourne and other cities h ave where you need a ticket before you board the train, and if you have no ticket or no concession card you get a fine. Only complete idiots in Adelaide can get fines on trains, the amount of times I've been on trains - especially the Gawler line where some dickhead has got argumentative with the PSO about buying a ticket, shameful when a man starts abusing two female PSO. Seriously if he had a metrocard and only touched on when he "needed" to it would have cost him 89 cents!
If we put validators on platforms they will need to be made dickhead proof LOL
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Validators making noises is only turning the rail system into a fun fair if you want a fun fair and associated noises then go into the actual show! Still seems like a gimmick though.
"David Peters"

Bingo!!! you get the cuppie doll!!
Of course it's a gimmick......... a gimmick that make it fun to validate ........ can you just imagine ..... "Mummy can I put the ticket in the machine?"
Ever thought it's a very cunning way to teach children to validate their ticket, unlike their fare evading parents?
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Validators making noises is only turning the rail system into a fun fair if you want a fun fair and associated noises then go into the actual show! Still seems like a gimmick though. Also I have no need to use this station at all and would not waste my time going to see it either! Been past it yes, but I have never used it!
David Peters

LaughingLaughing

It would be funny if you were not so serious!
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
David, you're a funny man, but don't try replacing Ed Kavalee on that 'Have You Been Paying Attention' show.

I cannot understand how so often you just don't get basic concepts.

Validators making noises is only turning the rail system into a fun fair if you want a fun fair and associated noises then go into the actual show!
"David Peters"
Have you thought that those using (and enjoying) the novelty validator noise (at Showgrounds Central) ARE actually, just maybe, going to the show... Rolling Eyes

If such novelty validation noises piss you off so much you could always not validate and run the risk of fine.

I am presently contemplating sending AdMet an email volunteering my services in programming to assist in further novelty tunes of validation.

Car rev noise for Clipsal, cow bells ringing during TDU, anything to annoy a fuddie duddie - of any age

would not waste my time going to see it either! Been past it yes, but I have never used it!
"David Peters"
You don't need to tell us that, those that have been paying attention can already see that.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Hear, Hear!
"SAR526"
Brian, can I tell you how pleasurable it is for me to finally see someone on this forum, or nearly any forum for that matter, finally spell those words correctly. That has properly made my day!
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Brian, can I tell you how pleasurable it is for me to finally see someone on this forum, or nearly any forum for that matter, finally spell those words correctly. That has properly made my day!
Aaron

Simple pleasures!
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

+1 to that ^^
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I am presently contemplating sending AdMet an email volunteering my services in programming to assist in further novelty tunes of validation.

Car rev noise for Clipsal, cow bells ringing during TDU, anything to annoy a fuddie duddie - of any age
"Aaron"
I was thinking a random selection of the default iOS and Android message tones would be the best sounds to have on the validators Very Happy

We could even have the old late 90's Nokia tones on the Outer Harbour line for old fogeys like David.
  poxbox3030 Train Controller

Location: Train Control
Man, i didn't realise how many fun police we had on this forum! Wink

I love the idea of these "Alternate sounding" validators. It's a nice little bonus for people using public transport to travel to the show.

I can only imagine it would have cost them next to nothing to add these sounds to the validators. Probably just a small sound file that replaces what ever is pre installed.

As for other non-show sound files like those suggested by Aaron and justapassenger. How about for the Jumbo farewell we get a sound file of the old crouzet validators so you'll get that 'Old School' feel Very Happy
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Or an elephant call.Smile

Which reminds me
"How does a bull elephant find female elephant in the dense forest?



Delightful"


Will the Simms yard become an elephants' (Jumbos') grave yard?
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Cliff annunciating the station name you've just boarded/validated at.
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
You know those horrible tinny tunes that gangs of ratbag teenagers like to play out loud on their phones while sitting on the back seat of the bus or train to annoy other passengers?

Maybe Adelaide Metro could instal a selection of these audio clips onto validators which play at random when a child or student Metrocard is validated.

It might encourage more young people to actually validate a ticket, as many can't seem to manage to endure a 20 minute journey without needing their "music". [/old bloke rant]

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