Seaford Line

 
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I thought the best way to check out the Seaford Meadows station loo was to go and have a look. I can confirm that there is NO LOO at this station.
davida62

P!st off?

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  dawesybj Chief Train Controller

Location: Morphett Vale Sth Australia
There is a toilet at Seaford Meadows stn it not on the platform but near the car park and bike track.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I thought the best way to check out the Seaford Meadows station loo was to go and have a look. I can confirm that there is NO LOO at this station.
"davida62"

Should've gone to Specsavers.
  davida62 Station Master

There is a toilet at Seaford Meadows stn it not on the platform but near the car park and bike track.
dawesybj

Is that on the eastern or western side of the platforms? What is the easiest way to access it - which platform?

I assume it has public access & isn't just for staff use??

Be nice if Adelaide Metro put up some signage!
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

It's at the station's main entrance from the car park and the Coast To Vines Bikeway, at the foot of the stairs and ramp. It's an Exeloo unit for public use – if there is also a staff-only toilet it would be inside the depot and not by the station entrance.

You need to go over the bridge to access it from either platform, as the depot access track is between the eastern platform and the main entrance.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I thought the best way to check out the Seaford Meadows station loo was to go and have a look. I can confirm that there is NO LOO at this station.
"davida62"
More searching is apparently required.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
It seems others have seen it too, it's not just an aberration of my own making.
  KEVIN ROEHR Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney
Where are the new electric trains serviced. Is adelaide to dry creek electrified
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Where are the new electric trains serviced. Is adelaide to dry creek electrified
KEVIN ROEHR


No they get towed by DEMUs to Dry Creek when they need to be serviced.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Most servicing and day to day maintenance is done at Seaford Depot which is at the end of the line. If something major needed to be done like crash repairs or something like that then most likely they would be towed to Dry Creek for this to happen!
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Seaford Depot which is at the end of the line.
David Peters

Hmmm, you've not been there have you?
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
Hmmm, you've not been there have you?
Aaron

+/- 1km !

Alex C
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Well it is not at Adelaide that is for sure Aaron it is not quite the end of the line, but is close to it to explain to people that have not been there where it is located. Stop splitting hairs it does not really need you to be doing things like this though. You would question your own mother by the looks of it. I was just answering in general where Seaford depot is just because it is a few hundred metres or less in front of the station is stiff cheese, it is still technically at the end of the line it is not a few kilometre's or so away.

Dry Creek depot is technically not at Dry Creek either as it is mainly well in front of the station in a Northwards direction but if you say at Dry Creek most with brains know where to look for it!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
No they get towed by DEMUs to Dry Creek when they need to be serviced.
Milkomeda


What is the track distance between the closest point of electrification and the Dry Creek servicing area?

Would it make sense to complete electrification into Dry Creek?
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Dry Creek is 10.6 kilometres from Adelaide Station itself so say take a kilometre off of that and you would possibly have the closest point. It is planned to electrify this section though but when is a big question! There is a lot of work to be undertaken at Torrens Junction to separate lines like they did at Goodwood before this should happen though!
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
What is the track distance between the closest point of electrification and the Dry Creek servicing area?

Would it make sense to complete electrification into Dry Creek?
bevans

See http://dpti.sa.gov.au/infrastructure/RR/rail_revitalisation/gawler_line. The SA government a while ago proposed electrification just to Dry Creek but then came up with a revised plan which extended the electrification to Salisbury which has the advantage of providing greater scope for revenue service. These proposals go back at least a year or two, following the decision to defer the entrire Gawler line electrification. SA budget constraints are the reason for the delay. Adelaide to Dry Creek is about 10km and a further 10km to Salisbury. The north half of Adelaide Station has not yet been electrified.

This issue has been discussed at length in this forum.  One of the more recent threads is http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11374572.htm

Alex C
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Dry Creek is 10.6 kilometres from Adelaide Station itself so say take a kilometre off of that and you would possibly have the closest point. It is planned to electrify this section though but when is a big question! There is a lot of work to be undertaken at Torrens Junction to separate lines like they did at Goodwood before this should happen though!
David Peters

David

Reworking of Torrens Junction is not required for electrification; desirable but by no means essential.

ARTC trains run under wires in Victoria and NSW so can run under wires in Adelaide. This assumes that the Port line is electrified for which there are no plans at present.

Some of the problems at Torrens Junction could be overcome by a road bridge at Torrens Road and perhaps even Hawker Street; much less cost than grade separation of the BG and SG lines.

Ian
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
From what I heard is that the NORTH line and Outer Harbor lines would change over ie what is now the Outer Harbour Line would become the Northline and the North Line would become the Outer Harbor line this is because of clearance etc on the existing North Line Bridge. It is also to be done so as to make the run down and up from the existing bridges to the planned underground station at Bowden a lot easier for Diesel railcars as well. So what would happen is that the Northline would then be along side existing electric lines in Adelaide station area so another couple of platforms need to be converted to electric use. Then Outer Harbor line trains would use possibly platforms 6-9 and not need too much else done to them this would allow easy exchange of electric railcars from Seaford line to Dry Creek lines with no interference with other services!

So what you would have at the torrens Bridge then is SG mainline, with electrified Northline as the next two lines and finally the Outer Harbour line going down the underpass straight after coming off the truss bridge. This would allow unrestricted air space above the older bridge for electric pylons or whatever! It does make some sense though!
  dvdplaza Chief Train Controller

I was just answering in general where Seaford depot is just because it is a few hundred metres or less in front of the station is stiff cheese, it is still technically at the end of the line it is not a few kilometre's or so away.
David Peters

Aaron's just making a small jab that the depot is adjacent Seaford Meadows station, not Seaford station which is at the end of the line a few kilometres away.
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

I reckon I can hear Aarons reel spooling.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

From what I heard is that the NORTH line and Outer Harbor lines would change over ie what is now the Outer Harbour Line would become the Northline and the North Line would become the Outer Harbor line this is because of clearance etc on the existing North Line Bridge. It is also to be done so as to make the run down and up from the existing bridges to the planned underground station at Bowden a lot easier for Diesel railcars as well. So what would happen is that the Northline would then be along side existing electric lines in Adelaide station area so another couple of platforms need to be converted to electric use. Then Outer Harbor line trains would use possibly platforms 6-9 and not need too much else done to them this would allow easy exchange of electric railcars from Seaford line to Dry Creek lines with no interference with other services!

So what you would have at the torrens Bridge then is SG mainline, with electrified Northline as the next two lines and finally the Outer Harbour line going down the underpass straight after coming off the truss bridge. This would allow unrestricted air space above the older bridge for electric pylons or whatever! It does make some sense though!
David Peters

A reasonable proposition David, but not essential to electrification.

In that the North line bridge was built during the Webb era I would suggest at least in height it would be to American loading gauge and thus have clearance for the electric overhead. They got the wires under the bridges over the Seaford line.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
That is what was happening but it was a while back things could have changed since then though. We will just have to see though.

Seaford Meadows , Seaford it is close enough so no big deal, it is closer to the end of the line than at Adelaide.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I reckon I can hear Aarons reel spooling.
SAR520SMBH

Yup, you can, and here I go casting again...

Seaford Meadows , Seaford it is close enough so no big deal, it is closer to the end of the line than at Adelaide.
David Peters

Wow, Seaford Meadows is closer to the end of the line than Adelaide? That's extraordinary! Name a timetable that lists an up service with a stop beyond Adelaide... Traditionally, lines have two ends sir.

Call me a pedant, but few others would believe that the second to last station was the end of the line...
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
Yup, you can, and here I go casting again...


Wow, Seaford Meadows is closer to the end of the line than Adelaide? That's extraordinary! Name a timetable that lists an up service with a stop beyond Adelaide... Traditionally, lines have two ends sir.

Call me a pedant, but few others would believe that the second to last station was the end of the line...
Aaron

Give over Aaron! You are a pedant. Anyone on this list with half a brain would have known that the Seaford depot is at Seaford, and that is the end of the line.

Yes, it is also close to Seaford Meadows, but even I could get off my scooter and limp that distance.

As for the 'end' of the line: since Adelaide Station is and always has been the city terminal (which literally means 'finish', I know) it is both the start and finish of all lines which lead to it, depending upon the direction of travel. For that reason, since all rail distances in the state have always been measured in terms of distance from it, all suburban termini are at the end of their respective lines.

Cheers,

Pedant No. 2. Smile
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
The 9:37, 10:37, 11:37, 12:37, 1:37 and 2:37 Showground Central trains are being turned around at Mitchell Park Station. Why didn't they just open them up to Tonsley passengers?

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