Maldon Station 1956

 
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi all,

I have started construction on my new layout, based on Maldon station in 1956. The track will be handlaid Proto87 code 55. 3 of the 4 modules have been constructed, awaiting track, and the fourth should be finished by tonight. Wiring will be DCC, run by an NCE Powercab. Track on the first 3 modules will hopefully be finished in 3 weeks or so. It is HO scale. Rolling stock will be a mix of SEM, Auscision and BRM. Buildings will mostly be Blue and Gold models kits, with a couple of scratchbuilt items. At the moment, the Turntable module, platform module, and approach module have been constructed, with only the engine road module to be completed. Locomotives run on the layout will eventually be SEM J class, SEM Derm, BRM T class, Auscision 280HP Walker and SEM AEC, and eventually Trainbuilder K and N classes. Rolling stock will be a mix of SEM and Auscision. Each module, excluding the turntable one, is 1200x600mm, and the turntable one is 900x600mm, each 12mm thick. The track will be layed  in order of- Roadbed, sleepers, ballast, rails. Each sleeper, rail and dogspike will be weathered separately. Each section of rail will be tested as laid. I will add pictures as it each section is finished. My blog can be found at http://www.maldonmodelrailway1956.blogspot.com and existing images including track plans are already on it.

Peter

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  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi,

As said earlier, the last module has now been completed. I am going to order some track from Proto87 in the next few days, and track laying will commence as soon as the order arrives.

Peter
  linton78 Train Controller

Location: South Coast NSW
Hi Peter,

Not sure if your intention is to model in P87 or to simply buy track from the Proto87 store? If you intend on using the P87 standard be sure to speak to those that have paved the way already. Although I am not a P87 modeller, some of those locomotives you have listed, particularly the steam locomotives are at this point very hard to convert to P87.

If you are simply buying what they call 88 wheel friendly point kits from the Proto87 store and building them to one of the intermediate type track standards well then good on you for having a go. There are a few guys around doing just that and the results look good.

Linton

Hi,

As said earlier, the last module has now been completed. I am going to order some track from Proto87 in the next few days, and track laying will commence as soon as the order arrives.

Peter
"PICHhobbies"
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi Peter,

Not sure if your intention is to model in P87 or to simply buy track from the Proto87 store? If you intend on using the P87 standard be sure to speak to those that have paved the way already. Although I am not a P87 modeller, some of those locomotives you have listed, particularly the steam locomotives are at this point very hard to convert to P87.

If you are simply buying what they call 88 wheel friendly point kits from the Proto87 store and building them to one of the intermediate type track standards well then good on you for having a go. There are a few guys around doing just that and the results look good.

Linton
linton78

Hi Linton,

My intention is to model in HO, however Proto87 offers the option of buying the same track parts but for both N, HO, O and P87 scales.

Peter
  linton78 Train Controller

Location: South Coast NSW
Hi Peter,

No worries. I use Proto87 Store etched sleeper plates, detail etches, switch rails and switch hinges. They do offer a good product. I changed up there construction method slightly adopting the more traditional PCB sleeper method instead of just glue. This provides support for my fabricated frog and think it adds overall strength. I am sure their suggested glue method works fine.

If you're interested I have included a link to my blog;

http://stonequarrycreek.blogspot.com.au

http://stonequarrycreek.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/making-tracks.html

I am just a track construction beginner but suggest you buy a decent set of track gauges applicable to what ever standard you choose.

Regards,

Linton



Hi Linton,

My intention is to model in HO, however Proto87 offers the option of buying the same track parts but for both N, HO, O and P87 scales.

Peter
"PICHhobbies"
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi,

As of today, I ordered 2500 sleepers from Fast Tracks. They are un-detailed wooden sleepers. When the order arrives, the sleepers will be layed on roadbed, which will be purchased in the next week or so, and then ballasted. The rails, dogspikes and other details will be purchased from Proto87 when I get up to the rail laying stage. For the time being, I am going to use Fast Tracks point diagrams for a number 6 set to lay out and cut sleepers for the points. The order consisted of 2000 standard sleepers, and 500 point sleepers. Another item I ordered was a standard sleeper jig. I will post an update when the roadbed is purchased and layed, or the sleepers arrive, whichever happens first.

Peter
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi all,

As of today, I have cut out the turntable pit, and I am almost ready to commence track laying. Being a 50' turntable, I am going to have a lot of fun when it comes to turning a SEM or BGM J class!!!

Peter
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

At the moment, I have 100 figures and 70 LED lights on order from Ebay, along with an American passenger car. The american coach will be dissected and a large amount of parts used for various projects, e.g. the corrugated section for a gangers shed, the wheels to leave lying around the yard and the bogies for a future project. I am hoping to light all the coaches on the railway, which is why I ordered the LED's. I also hope to light cars and the station.



EDIT- I lost the bidding for the passenger car, however I have added an LED dimmer and 3 track cleaning pads to add to the order.

Peter
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hi all,

As of today, I have cut out the turntable pit, and I am almost ready to commence track laying. Being a 50' turntable, I am going to have a lot of fun when it comes to turning a SEM or BGM J class!!!

Peter
PICHhobbies

either make a scale 50ft turntable and not fit  locos on it - modify the locos to fit  ( making them wrong.
or
modify the turntable just a little by making it slightly longer - and keep the locod as built

Either approach makes one side wrong at the expense of the other. Extending the turntable is best as loco modification would be so complex and make them wrong.

And seperating the tender is a full sized practise. Cannot see that modellable, you will take a long time to do it at a show, and  not the usual thing done, they turn the loco complete at Maldon, and that is what your aim should be, modeling the station as it can be used properly.

Of course if the turntable in non operating it solves all problems. Just ensure all locos have working couplers on each end !

We do not want you to drop the project for this detail, as you are aiming for a high standard. Which we all encourage you to continue with.

Regards,
David Head
  The railway dog Train Controller

Location: Adelaide Hills
A bit of a sidetrack. I once had a conversation with the late Peter Leggett at Asquith, currently mentioned in another thread here, about a working arrangement to split the loco & tender. It was intended for NSW locos but obviously the principle applies. From memory it simply involved fitting Kadees to both ends of the loco & tender, allowing the tender to be shunted as an ordinary vehicle. Obvious electrical connectivity issues, but I wonder if he ever got around to it?

Best wishes with the project.
  The railway dog Train Controller

Location: Adelaide Hills
For anyone who bothered to read my last post, perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "simply". There'd be quite a bit of cutting & shutting required to fit Kadees to both ends. But the idea's there, probably more use as a boutique sort of thing to impress your friends with.
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi David and The Railway Dog,

I have now decided to make it a scale 53', which will allow for just under 1mm on either end of an SEM J. I am also going down to Maldon tomorrow, and I will take the opportunity to prove the rumors that a 53' turntable is in fact slightly longer than 54'. I can also check visually how much space a J has on each end if I help turn the J or when watching the crew turn it.

Peter
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Do you have an SEM J Class? Not easy to find these days.
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
Something to be said about buying things while you can still get them...
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I think if he doesn't have one currently, he's hoping to get one. I wish him luck as I sort of wanted one, till I read the assembly instructions, I'm now eyeing Trainbuilder's or hoping Eureka will do it instead.
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

Hi ARodH

That is absolutely correct, however the Trainbuilder one is a fair bit outside my budget. I have also started sleeper laying, and have layed the first 2 turnouts and a third of the No.3 road. Track laying in the platform road has commenced and should hopefully get finished tonight when I get back from Maldon.

Peter
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
If you get an SEM J class, it will have to be from a current owner, as there are no plans to re-run the kit.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I just remembered I should read the title.  Maldon in 1956.   Were there J's around then ?
To me tha above point is not important really.  But  just interesting in a abstract way.  

At the moment one can get a  PSM a SEM a BGM a Alco and soon a Trainbuilder, and I assume one day a  "plastic" one from someone.
I think BGM are the only with a kit now, and Trainbuidler a brass one.

A K, again I thinl Alco,  BGM , soon Eureka, and not sure if trainbuilder have/will do a K
BGM did a  "E"

Is the  "Y" too heavy in real life for the VGR ?

Regards,
David Head
  PICHhobbies Locomotive Fireman

I just remembered I should read the title. Maldon in 1956. Were there J's around then ?
To me tha above point is not important really. But just interesting in a abstract way.

At the moment one can get a PSM a SEM a BGM a Alco and soon a Trainbuilder, and I assume one day a "plastic" one from someone.
I think BGM are the only with a kit now, and Trainbuidler a brass one.

A K, again I thinl Alco, BGM , soon Eureka, and not sure if trainbuilder have/will do a K
BGM did a "E"

Is the "Y" too heavy in real life for the VGR ?

Regards,
David Head
dthead

Hi,

The J's were built in 53/54 and were in 54 onwards. There was some talk today about some old 1870's 1880's passenger coaches that did a film shoot at the VGR behind 515 but they want to get Y112 or T94 up to do the shoot again with the more prototypical loco. The E is too heavy to be run on the line, which is why the VGR havent already put 371 back in service, it was purchased late 70's early 80's but the axle weight is too heavy. I am going to read up about the BGM J, K and Y as I may quite possibly use them on the model depending on reviews, otherwise I will just get a BGM or SEM J, a Eureka K and modify an american loco into a D3.

Peter

PS- There was a marvelous bonfire at Maldon station, we cleaned up the yard and it was 3 metres high!

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