Another truck v train passenger carriage on the Swan Hill line

 
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
A truck has failed to give way to a V/Line passenger train traveling from Swan Hill to Melbourne, at a level crossing near Bendigo.

Looks to be just damaged panels and level crossing signs.

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  richter170 Junior Train Controller

Hi all.

N457 and FN6 was the set involved in the incident.

The train was damaged in the accident.

From V/line website. The 1823 Swan Hill to terminate Bendigo tonight with Road coaches replacing trains. Morning up on Saturday morning to originate Bendigo with coaches from Swan Hill.
  Some rail man Junior Train Controller

Location: CIA Headquarters in Washington D.C
Every time a truck driver gets sentenced on a earlier level crossing accident (personally I think he should have been sentenced to life behind prison for driving around the boom gates causing death and $3 million damage) another accident happens somewhere else because truck drivers are stupid around level crossings.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
According to news reports the crossing lacked boom gates but where there lights?
  torrens5022 Junior Train Controller

There's nothing apart from a give to trains,
It has google street view.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Acccording to Vicsig, none of the crossings around Woodvale have boom gates, or flashing lights, just stop or give way signs.

Unfortunately, with these lines that see little rail traffic (includign the Swan Hill line at between 4 and 6 trains a day depending on whether or not there is a grain train on the line) most drivers tend to get a bit complacent and don't actually STOP before crossing the line.

Considering eveybody walked away and without serious injury, I wouldn't expect any driver found to be responsible to be sentanced to any prison term.

On another note, reports yesterday stated that the train derailed, yet in the pictures this wasn't apparent. So was it derailed?
  richter170 Junior Train Controller
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
A truck driver has just been sentenced this week to imprisonment and yet another truck driver has caused another train crash.

Amazed these truck drivers are not taking their responsibilities more seriously. Could have been a more serious outcome.

[edit] Cleaned up by RP Mod [/edit]
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Well said, freightgate - I was about to post exactly the same sentiment.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
There are already heavy penalties for heavy vehicle drivers who fail to give way at railway level crossings.

So when the courts find the truck driver guilty, they will be subject to these penalties !

People need to get out of their heads that an offending driver should be locked up for life, sent to the scaffold etc, ""It won't happen"" !!

Their may be grater pressure on the Government and law makers to stiffen the penalties even further ?

One thing that will probably happen Is an accelerated level crossing upgrade program across the V/Line passenger network.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well said, @freightgate - I was about to post exactly the same sentiment.
Valvegear


It is obvious the message is just not getting through. The penalties, perhaps they are not high or extensive enough.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
It could just be these truck drivers think they are above the law and reproach.

A truck is a deadly weapon if not driven diligently and professionally.

How thenkeramg guy got off was just disgraceful
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia


One thing that will probably happen Is an accelerated level crossing upgrade program across the V/Line passenger network.
Nightfire


all governments tend to think it is the rail company's responsibility to remove level crossings.  this is the job of vicroads and the funding allocated to complete the works should not be classified as rail funding.

the rail lines were there long before the major roads.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
all governments tend to think it is the rail company's responsibility to remove level crossings. this is the job of vicroads and the funding allocated to complete the works should not be classified as rail funding.

the rail lines were there long before the major roads.
JimYarin

Vicroads only takes responsibility for State Highways and major roads, not minor roads (they get left to local Government)

At the end of the day funding for roads and railways comes from the same pot of money propped up by taxpayers and Government revenue/borrowing.

Private mining railways, a different kettle of fish, but your not refiring to them, your talking about Government owned / administrated railways.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Vicroads only takes responsibility for State Highways and major roads, not minor roads (they get left to local Government)

At the end of the day funding for roads and railways comes from the same pot of money propped up by taxpayers and Government revenue/borrowing.

Private mining railways, a different kettle of fish, but your not refiring to them, your talking about Government owned / administrated railways.
Nightfire


how will a minor road crossing then be funded?  does the money come to the council or victrack?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
how will a minor road crossing then be funded? does the money come to the council or victrack?
JimYarin

State Government through the Governments Victrack access department.

Local Councils have very little funds, due to cost shifting.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
If Victrack is involved will be at least 3 times the price of what it should cost.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
If Victrack is involved will be at least 3 times the price of what it should cost.
freightgate

Only 3 you think !
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Incarceration doesn't help anyone. If a truck driver is going to race the train to the crossing, they should be prohibited from ever driving a large vehicle again. We definitely need stricter laws when it comes to non-passenger vehicles. Particularly the fact that it's apparently perfectly legal for moron truckies to use jake brakes at 3:00 in the morning, just like Harley riders with their straight pipes which can still be heard over two kilometres away. Put a loud exhaust/fart cannon on a four-cylinder or Falcodore, you get laughed at (rightly so); a loud truck or bike on the other hand gets ignored completely and is considered completely normal, despite buses (as an example) being an order of magnitude quieter than vehicles with the same or similar engine/transmission combination (notably, garbage trucks and cement mixers), and a Harley with a stock exhaust setup is actually quiet and runs better as well (not all bikies are d*ckheads, just like not all truck drivers are either).
  TedHanson Junior Train Controller

All vehicles should be required to stop at rail crossings that don't have barriers. For anyone who thinks that is too onerous, I suggest they think about how many road intersections have stop signs.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

All vehicles should be required to stop at rail crossings that don't have barriers. For anyone who thinks that is too onerous, I suggest they think about how many road intersections have stop signs.
TedHanson

It is fast approaching situation where any truck over  ? tonnes weight will be required to STOP at all  unprotected lx as buses are already required to do .
  Calgully Deputy Commissioner

Location:
Unfortunately, with these lines that see little rail traffic (including the Swan Hill line at between 4 and 6 trains a day depending on whether or not there is a grain train on the line) most drivers tend to get a bit complacent and don't actually STOP before crossing the line.
Gman_86


If the problem is that the rail traffic is too little to register in the consciousness of drivers then the solution is obvious.  
Increase the frequency of trains.  
And those additional trains could carry some of the freight on today's trucks - so there'd be fewer trucks.  
Wins all round!
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
If the problem is that the rail traffic is too little to register in the consciousness of drivers then the solution is obvious.  
Increase the frequency of trains.  
"Calgully"


Doesn't always work that way.  
A truck driver hit a train a few years ago at a level crossing near Virginia in SA. The line was the main line to Perth and Darwin and carried a lot of rail traffic per day. The Truck driver lived not far away from the crossing and drove across it two to four times per day, yet he claimed he had never had to stop for a train in "years"
So the frequency of train traffic would do little for a driver who only uses a crossing once or twice a day.
Incidentally, the truck driver paid a large price for his actions, whilst not an "arm and a leg" it was two legs!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Doesn't always work that way.
A truck driver hit a train a few years ago at a level crossing near Virginia in SA. The line was the main line to Perth and Darwin and carried a lot of rail traffic per day. The Truck driver lived not far away from the crossing and drove across it two to four times per day, yet he claimed he had never had to stop for a train in "years"
Pressman


That is hardly a valid excuse from any professional driver. Were there stop signs erected at that crossing?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
That is hardly a valid excuse from any professional driver. Were there stop signs erected at that crossing?
"bevans"

Exactly, not professional at all
Crossing had flashing lights!

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