Factory/private sidings in metro area

 
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Was discussing with a friend the other day about the quarry line in Brooklyn. We couldn't think of any other remaining private sidings. Most have been closed. Does anyone know of any others?

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
There are private sidings to blue scope and cement Australia at somerton.
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
What about the Apex/Hanson and the other sidings at Westal, or don't they count as Metro hates their existance.......

Looking at Google Maps earth view there's still a few if you know a rough location to look at. Out by Bombardier https://goo.gl/maps/xa3Ae, there's the Kimberly-Clarke siding with no factory and a real life example of a dog-bone/oval model train layout.

Going though here http://www.signaldiagramsandphotos.com/mywebpages/vr/metro.html will give a rough idea on what's gone.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Kimptons (whatever the flour mill is now called) at Kensington.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
There is a brilliant book published in 2012 by Train Hobby Publications titled "Melbourne's Industrial and Suburban Sidings: a photographic profile compiled by Neville Gee" which details all that you might be looking for.  It looks like it can still be bought - I found my copy at the recent Caulfield Model Railway Exhibition.

Link to the catalogue: http://catalog.trainhobby.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=162&osCsid=2c7f42e499fec113f4b5c0be5d7e5493

Train Hobby Publications: http://catalog.trainhobby.com.au
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
What about the Apex/Hanson and the other sidings at Westal, or don't they count as Metro hates their existance.......

Looking at Google Maps earth view there's still a few if you know a rough location to look at. Out by Bombardier https://goo.gl/maps/xa3Ae, there's the Kimberly-Clarke siding with no factory and a real life example of a dog-bone/oval model train layout.

Going though here http://www.signaldiagramsandphotos.com/mywebpages/vr/metro.html will give a rough idea on what's gone.
ARodH

That dog-bone model train loop on the map is actually the tram test track.  When I was working in Cranbourne, in the later part of last year I got to see the E-Class trams being tested on that track as I sped past on the train.  Before the E-Class, that track was last used for the A-Class & B Class trams in the mid-80's.
  retromelb Chief Commissioner

Arguably metro area, the Long Island branches at Hastings could still be counted.  The newer SCT and CRT sidings between Newport and Laverton, and Sadliers at Spotswood may fit the bill, although none of these venture too far from their adjacent main lines.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Let's not forget the Boral siding at Deer Park.  AWB also have a private siding(s) at Sunshine.
  blowfish Junior Train Controller

There are private sidings to blue scope and cement Australia at somerton.
freightgate

And the AusTrack siding(s)/intermodal terminal.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Bombardier at Dandenong............
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
And the AusTrack siding(s)/intermodal terminal.
blowfish


is austrack a customer or is this just the name of the yard?

are the altona sidings for fcl still used?
  blowfish Junior Train Controller

is austrack a customer or is this just the name of the yard?

are the altona sidings for fcl still used?
JimYarin

It's the name of the business park. The terminal with the rail access, is operated by QUBE.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Do we also cover Geelong on this discussion ?
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
Do we also cover Geelong on this discussion ?
freightgate

Save opening another thread.
There were a few sidings and some still exist.

There is a great web page set up by one of the prominent members here with lots of great info and photos.

http://www.railgeelong.com
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
There is also the siding that leads to the Brooklyn tip (not far from the quarry). I think it was last used back in 2010 by X42 sending down some old freight wagons for scrapping. I don't think it's useable at the moment, there is a fair bit of growth building up over it, but it's still connected.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
There is also the siding that leads to the Brooklyn tip (not far from the quarry). I think it was last used back in 2010 by X42 sending down some old freight wagons for scrapping. I don't think it's useable at the moment, there is a fair bit of growth building up over it, but it's still connected.
Gman_86

Is it still there?  -37.802756, 144.843428

With the springing up of container parks in this area, I wonder if extending or relaid tracks to these parks could help the truck issues that are in these areas. See MTAG for more lobby group info.

http://mtag.org.au
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
Is it still there? -37.802756, 144.843428

With the springing up of container parks in this area, I wonder if extending or relaid tracks to these parks could help the truck issues that are in these areas.
QSB6.7

Umm, that's probably a bit too close to the feared Simsmetal for most foamers. It's also on the wrong side of the Brooklyn triangle leg that goes to the docks without shunting.

A better idea is revamp the Brooklyn yard (even closer to Sims) with container handling facilities, surely the container yard operators on the northern side and nearby would benefit from being able to send a load of empties back to the port....

Then there's the company at 525 Geelong Rd/Princes Hwy (Little Brooklyn) going by Google Earth, they've a rail connection and a lot of containers in their yard would they...on a second look a five wagon-long container train isn't a cost effective idea.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Umm, that's probably a bit too close to the feared Simsmetal for most foamers. It's also on the wrong side of the Brooklyn triangle leg that goes to the docks without shunting.
ARodH


What do you mean by being on the wrong side?
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
If they reinstated that siding as it currently is, if a train was to go there from the Melbourne docks, all I could see was that it couldn't go directly there and would require some disruptive shunting movements to do so. At the time I posted the only movements I could see was Docks -> Sunshine via Tottenham, runaround -> Brooklyn ?? siding or Docks -> Newport, runaround -> Brooklyn ?? siding though there's probably better less aggravating to Metro movements like Docks -> Brooklyn Yard via Tottenham, runaround -> Brooklyn ?? siding which also leaves the loco facing the main, another thing I didn't consider.

Probably better off adding container facilities to some of the old yards and sidings that are left.

Anyway like most things non-passenger rail related in this state, it's unlikely to happen due to the usual factors of NIMBY's, cost, etc...
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Thanks all for your replies. I don't venture out of the west much, obviously!

As for the tip siding, I suspect that it would be unusable even if the vegetation was removed. It is in very poor condition and would have to be relaid. I'm talking 10m lengths of rail coming away from sleepers.
  merlin Chief Commissioner

Location: North East Adelaide
The siding to the New Holland factory (now "The Shed" skate park) at Cranbourne South is still connected, even if the line itself is somewhat dubiously "connected" to the network.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Somewhere near frankston there is one
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Somewhere near frankston there is one
X'Trapolis-904M
Are you talking about the one used by the Long Island goods, or is there one closer than that?
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
There is a brilliant book published in 2012 by Train Hobby Publications titled "Melbourne's Industrial and Suburban Sidings: a photographic profile compiled by Neville Gee" which details all that you might be looking for.  It looks like it can still be bought - I found my copy at the recent Caulfield Model Railway Exhibition.

Link to the catalogue: http://catalog.trainhobby.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=162&osCsid=2c7f42e499fec113f4b5c0be5d7e5493
jdekorte

I've had a pursue of that book and to me it appears that they ran out of steam in the process of collating it. It has details on western, northern and inter metro, then it just peters out with oh here's some photo's of eastern and south-eastern suburbs and look the Hawthorn goods yard had a symmetrical three-way point at one point.

There are elements shown that are no doubt repeatable on a model train layout, though I doubt using the scale equivalent of soil and Lilydale topping for ballast would be appreciated by some. I am puzzled by some of the shown trackwork, mostly where to enter a siding on the left the train is sent right and shortly crosses back over (with a diamond) the line it originated from. An apparent known to still to be existing of this is the standard gauge entry (http://goo.gl/maps/UWczi) for Ford.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I've had a pursue of that book and to me it appears that they ran out of steam in the process of collating it. It has details on western, northern and inter metro, then it just peters out with oh here's some photo's of eastern and south-eastern suburbs and look the Hawthorn goods yard had a symmetrical three-way point at one point.

There are elements shown that are no doubt repeatable on a model train layout, though I doubt using the scale equivalent of soil and Lilydale topping for ballast would be appreciated by some. I am puzzled by some of the shown trackwork, mostly where to enter a siding on the left the train is sent right and shortly crosses back over (with a diamond) the line it originated from. An apparent known to still to be existing of this is the standard gauge entry (http://goo.gl/maps/UWczi) for Ford.
ARodH
Outstanding book

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