SA frequency list and a bit of other stuff

 
  Railnthusiast Chief Commissioner

Location: At the computer
Hi, This is a little frequency list I have scratched up from the deths of RP and I thought I should compile them together. Please tell me if any are wrong or not used any more. ALso if here are others, please tell me and I can add that to the list.

418.6750-GWA control
409.2250-?
418.1000-Dry Creek
418.4570-South Control
418.1250-Mallala repeater
418.2000-?
418.2250-?
409.0250-ARTC south of Adelaide
409.3750-GSR train manager
418.8000-GSR train shutner
418.3000-SCT shhunting at Keswick (is this still used?)
486.5000-TA (is this still used?)
Pt August Frequencies
418.2000
408.6750
418.2250
418.6000
418.4875
Pt August Shunting
168.5200
168.6400
168.6100

I do not own a scanner but I am thinking of buying one second hand off of Ebay. Can anyone give me advice? Whats good and whats bad etc? I do not really want to spend more that $100 as ARTC are suposed to be converting to Next G networks. Also, if I buy a scanner from (for example) America, will it still work in Australia?
Problem with ebay is that as soon as something interesting pops up, it soon dissapears!

Thanks all
Railnthusiast

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  railscan Locomotive Fireman

Location: Beside a railway line somewhere
I do not own a scanner but I am thinking of buying one second hand off of Ebay. Can anyone give me advice? Whats good and whats bad etc? I do not really want to spend more that $100 as ARTC are suposed to be converting to Next G networks. Also, if I buy a scanner from (for example) America, will it still work in Australia? Problem with ebay is that as soon as something interesting pops up, it soon dissapears! Thanks all Railnthusiast
"Railnthusiast"


R,

Buying a scanner new or used, is down to a number of personal preferences, do you want handheld (highly recommended) or mobile / desktop? Assuming it is handheld, then a $100 should get you a resonably good condition used Uniden like UBC73XLT or the UBC93XLT (I think the model numbers are correct). But for a little bit more ($20-$30), you can have a new one. New is best, why? You can be reasonably assured that it is going to work straight out of the box, such is not the case with used. That it will come with all the bits and pieces supplied by the factory, again not so with used. And more importantly, in the unlikely event of a failure, warranty will apply.

Handhelds provide the best of both worlds and while there are limitation on handhelds, they can be used, ambulatory, driving, on board the train or at home as a base setup. Mobiles are limited by their need for power, there size in some of our modern vehicles and they cannot be used while walking. The choice however is yours.

Generally speaking a scanner purchased in the US, UK, UAE or anywhere else will work in Australia. I say that with some qualification. That being, channel steps, we use a mixture of 15kHz and 12.5kHz on VHF high band, UHF is almost exclusively 12.5kHz, so assuming the foreign scanner can handle those step rates or close to them, then there will be no problem for railway reception. A slight rounding of a frequency will not be noticable, eg; 168.8125 might read as 168.813. Believe me you will not be able to tell the difference. The only other consideration is frequency bands. Some overseas models exclude the VHF midband (66-88MHz), however if there is no users of interest then that shouldn't be an issue. Do a bit of homework before commiting. Makers website will generally help here.

ARTC's migration to a digital platform is a minor inconvenience. The system will be primarily for train control, and yes it will mean that information about trains will be denied, whereas  in the past it was freely available. You can of course still listen to yards, admin channels, shunters and so on. And while they too will go digital as some stage in the future, (non Next G) modes such as P25 or DMR, they will be in analogue for awhile yet. So you will get a good number of years service from your scanner. Yard admin channels can often provide information on train arrivals and departures, especially when there are a large number of train coming and going. The yard controller will be pushed to find paths for departing trains, while trying to find storage or holding roads for arrivals. A viable alternative.

Railscan


  Railnthusiast Chief Commissioner

Location: At the computer
Thanks Railscan, Thats the sort of stuff I was hoping to hear.
  Railnthusiast Chief Commissioner

Location: At the computer
Hi,
What do you reckon about this?
http://www.amazon.com/Uniden-BC72XLT-Handheld-Scanner-Black/dp/B0002QIBNK
Seems to tick the frequency needs and seems all right.
Some dodgy reviews, but most say it's all right.
Thanks
  Railnthusiast Chief Commissioner

Location: At the computer
Hi all,
I have my new scanner and I am enjoying it. Here is a little sheet I have been writing to organise what frequencies I
 have and what I don't and whats releveant etc. I have been getting a few taxi drivers, the ambos and also some planes with the scanner searching. I also was treated to Bollywood music as well!
Here is my information, enjoy.

Scanner Frequencies

 

Found on Railpage Australia™ May 2012

 

418.675- GWA Control

409.225- GWA Control

418.100- Dry Creek?

418.475- South Control

418.125- Mallala repeater

418.200- ?

418.225- ?

168.520

168.640

168.610

418.600

418.4875

409.025- ARTC South Control?

409.375- GSR train manager-Keswick

418.300-SCT Shunting-Keswick (Should no longer exist)

486.500- TA?

418.800- GSR train manager

410.825- GSR onboard

418.800- Keswick Shunt

418.825- Keswick Shunt

418.525- North Control

418.425- Train to Train

418.900- MPC Shunt

418.650- AFT Shunt

411.400- BRO Islington

410.825- GSR Adelaide to Bordertown

 

168.520- Channel 1 Train to Train

168.580- Channel 2 Train to Train

168.640- Channel 3 Train to Train

168.910- Channel 4 Train to Train

168.550- Channel 5 Train to Train

168.610- Channel 6 Train to Train

168.630- Channel 7 Train to Train

 

 

Train Frequencies


Loaded onto scanner as of 21-5-12


 

Bank 1

 

418.475- SOUTH CONTROL

418.525- NORTH CONTROL

418.100- WEST CONTROL

418.675- GWA CONTROL

418.800- KESWICK SHUNT

418.825- KESWICK SHUNT

418.900- MPC SHUNT

418.650- AFT SHUNT

411.400- BRO ISLINGTON

409.225- GWA TRAIN CONTROL

 

Bank 2

 

168.520- Channel 1 Train to Train

168.580- Channel 2 Train to Train

168.640- Channel 3 Train to Train

168.910- Channel 4 Train to Train

168.550- Channel 5 Train to Train

168.610- Channel 6 Train to Train

168.630- Channel 7 Train to Train

410.825- GSR ON BOARD

418.750- GSR 58 ??? (what ever that means)

418.775- GSR 59 ??? (what ever that means)

 

Bank 3

 

409.025- ADEL TAILEMBEND

Random Pt Augusta Frequencies

418.200

408.675

418.225

 

Bank 4

 


Adelaide Metro


418.450

409.075

418.275

486.500 (Still working???)

 

 


Some Really Random Frequencies (picked up on close call along the lines and don’t know what they are)


418.025

418.656

416.725

416.325

418.862

416.687

417.175

417.437

416.200- Random Belair Frequency

486.950

  stuart Locomotive Fireman

Location: Adelaide SA
Central Control: 418.450.

South Control, Mile End to roughly Tailem Bend 418.475.
No coverage beyond there to the border.
Reception through the hills is pretty average though apart from Mt Lofty as the repeater is on the station.

Western Control, Adelaide repeater 418.100.
Mallala repeater 418.125.
Bowmans repeater 418.225
I can't remember them all but there is a repeater at Lakeview and possibly between there and Bowmans.
Crystal Brook is 418.225 for Western and 418.575 for Northern control.
Pt Pirie repeater 418.100.
All repeaters between Adelaide and Pt Augusta are either 418.100, 418.125, 418.200 and 418.225.

Stuart
  Railnthusiast Chief Commissioner

Location: At the computer

Central Control: 418.450.

South Control, Mile End to roughly Tailem Bend 418.475.
No coverage beyond there to the border.
Reception through the hills is pretty average though apart from Mt Lofty as the repeater is on the station.

Western Control, Adelaide repeater 418.100.
Mallala repeater 418.125.
Bowmans repeater 418.225
I can't remember them all but there is a repeater at Lakeview and possibly between there and Bowmans.
Crystal Brook is 418.225 for Western and 418.575 for Northern control.
Pt Pirie repeater 418.100.
All repeaters between Adelaide and Pt Augusta are either 418.100, 418.125, 418.200 and 418.225.

Stuart

"stuart"

Thanks for that. Just in time as well for the weekend.
  Railnthusiast Chief Commissioner

Location: At the computer
Look what I  have just found. This seems useful.
http://www.artc.com.au/library/TA02a10.pdf
This looks a little dated, what do others think?
http://rsa.four12.net/sa/artc.htm
  railscan Locomotive Fireman

Location: Beside a railway line somewhere
Look what I have just found. This seems useful. http://www.artc.com.au/library/TA02a10.pdf This looks a little dated, what do others think? http://rsa.four12.net/sa/artc.htm
"Railnthusiast"


As you noted this information is now 8 years old. The frequency information is largely okay however, for a short time at least. Once the 'digital' system is fully operational the UHF will be redundant for train control. Other rail frequencies, those used for local comms, shunting and non control type radio will largely remain on UHF, but using some sort of digital platform. This has been reported by me elsewhere on this forum.

R
  thrillhouse Beginner

Hello,

Can you still use a scanner in SA? Seen a few people talking about it, but no one saying whether they're going to actually change to a private 3G network. I've seen a few people using scanners recently so guessing they haven't done it yet.

If they definitely are changing in the next few months, I won't get one, but if they are, where is the best place in SA to buy one? I see most people use Uniden UBC---XLT models, so guess I will too.

Thanks, Danny
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Hi, This is a little frequency list I have scratched up from the deths of RP and I thought I should compile them together. Please tell me if any are wrong or not used any more. ALso if here are others, please tell me and I can add that to the list.

418.6750-GWA control
409.2250-?
418.1000-Dry Creek
418.4570-South Control
418.1250-Mallala repeater
418.2000-?
418.2250-?
409.0250-ARTC south of Adelaide
409.3750-GSR train manager
418.8000-GSR train shutner
418.3000-SCT shhunting at Keswick (is this still used?)
486.5000-TA (is this still used?)
Pt August Frequencies
418.2000
408.6750
418.2250
418.6000
418.4875
Pt August Shunting
168.5200
168.6400
168.6100

I do not own a scanner but I am thinking of buying one second hand off of Ebay. Can anyone give me advice? Whats good and whats bad etc? I do not really want to spend more that $100 as ARTC are suposed to be converting to Next G networks. Also, if I buy a scanner from (for example) America, will it still work in Australia?
Problem with ebay is that as soon as something interesting pops up, it soon dissapears!

Thanks all
Railnthusiast
Railnthusiast
I got a 75XLT Off amazon and it works where i am
  thrillhouse Beginner

I got a 75XLT Off amazon and it works where i am
X'Trapolis-904M


Is this the one?

Or would this be suitable?

http://www.amazon.com/Bearcat-Handheld-Scanner-channel-BC75XLT/dp/B00CLFH42E/ref=sr_1_71?s=security-surveillance&ie=UTF8&qid=1421465811&sr=1-71&keywords=uniden+scanner

Thanks, Danny

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